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Old 02-27-2014, 10:48 AM
 
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I am really interested to see if he has any ideas for the neighborhoods - which he mentioned. Crime control would go a long way, and may actually be 90% of the solution.
Crime control would definitely help. Decent urban planning will be helpful as well. The abandoned areas of Detroit could be turned into something else, something better. And even further, Detroit has a geographic advantage. Most people never consider that. I will go into more detail later.
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Old 02-27-2014, 02:24 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Crime control would definitely help. Decent urban planning will be helpful as well. The abandoned areas of Detroit could be turned into something else, something better. And even further, Detroit has a geographic advantage. Most people never consider that. I will go into more detail later.
I'm thinking "remove the fear and people will come". I believe there are many who would love to exploit the potential which is there. Yeah the geographical location is great, infrastructure is already in place, maybe the suburban exodus of the 1950s ain't all it was cracked up to be (being also vehemently hyped to sell autos). IMO a lot of people working together can work wonders in a short amount of time.
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Old 02-27-2014, 04:31 PM
 
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I'm thinking "remove the fear and people will come". I believe there are many who would love to exploit the potential which is there. Yeah the geographical location is great, infrastructure is already in place, maybe the suburban exodus of the 1950s ain't all it was cracked up to be (being also vehemently hyped to sell autos). IMO a lot of people working together can work wonders in a short amount of time.
Alot of people are scared of Detroit. There is also a hatred of Detroit. And sadly, it makes many people forget the kind of potential that Detroit has. The geographic advantage, think about this. Being on a major waterway is very important. Detroit being on the Detroit River, well it was one of the busiest waterways in the world at one point. It is still a busy waterway. What it will take to make it even more valuable is to produce more things to ship. Furthermore, it's a very busy border crossing. The video below actually explains some of how Detroit has a geographic advantage:
Detroit, more than just automobiles Why geography is very important for Detroit - YouTube

I think one thing that will be good for Detroit is not only for people to work together, but to find a way to create something new.
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Old 02-27-2014, 06:07 PM
 
Location: west mich
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^^ Sure, more manufacturing or import/export in the area should create a bigger and more significant port. Just part of the picture.

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Old 02-27-2014, 07:28 PM
 
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^^ Sure, more manufacturing or import/export in the area should create a bigger and more significant port. Just part of the picture.
In addition, education is something that should be heavily emphasized. When I say education, I mean this: One way Detroit can prosper once again is to have some of the best engineers and talent there. Consider Silicon Valley. The talent base was built up there. I think the same should be done for the Detroit area. In many ways, Detroit is like a new canvas. So many things could be done for Detroit at this point. New things could be built. It is important to retain as much of the talent in as possible, and attracting more.
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Old 02-27-2014, 08:41 PM
 
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In addition, education is something that should be heavily emphasized. When I say education, I mean this: One way Detroit can prosper once again is to have some of the best engineers and talent there. Consider Silicon Valley. The talent base was built up there. I think the same should be done for the Detroit area. In many ways, Detroit is like a new canvas. So many things could be done for Detroit at this point. New things could be built. It is important to retain as much of the talent in as possible, and attracting more.
Yep, Detroiters aren't dumb and can learn trades, but many are now living hand-to-mouth and schooling ain't cheap - and what would they train for? Henry Ford had the right idea - provide jobs and train the workers to do them for free - maybe we need more Henrys. Shinola did something very similar on a smaller scale. Something must happen to manufacturing overseas to bring manufacturing back. One proposal is by our own Debbie Stabenow.
Senators Block

OK that was blocked, but something similar could be part of the answer. There are also tariff issues and protectionism practiced by our trading "partners" where reform is like walking on eggshells. There is also growing worker unrest in the cheap-labor countries, so there are multiple issues to tackle - but this present situation has developed over decades. Maybe we should think up jobs which can't be outsourced since it is done mostly by large businesses and is more difficult for small ones.

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Old 02-28-2014, 05:08 AM
 
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Yep, Detroiters aren't dumb and can learn trades, but many are now living hand-to-mouth and schooling ain't cheap - and what would they train for? Henry Ford had the right idea - provide jobs and train the workers to do them for free - maybe we need more Henrys. Shinola did something very similar on a smaller scale. Something must happen to manufacturing overseas to bring manufacturing back. One proposal is by our own Debbie Stabenow.
Senators Block

OK that was blocked, but something similar could be part of the answer. There are also tariff issues and protectionism practiced by our trading "partners" where reform is like walking on eggshells. There is also growing worker unrest in the cheap-labor countries, so there are multiple issues to tackle - but this present situation has developed over decades. Maybe we should think up jobs which can't be outsourced since it is done mostly by large businesses and is more difficult for small ones.
Not just learn trades, but the technological stuff as well. And the sad thing about school not being cheap is this. One thing I learned about being in school is this. Many institutions seem to care more about how much money you can give them than about churning out as many talented persons as possible.

One field to really consider is the green energy sector. Stuff like solar panels, turbines, and the like. It would help to have some investment in that sector.

Things like NAFTA have not done any favors for Detroit. One reason more tarriffs should be implemented. However, I will be helpful to have homegrown solutions to bring prosperity to Detroit. One important reason to invest in the local talent that is there, and bring the young into the fold as well. It is very important to prepare for Detroit's future NOW. Anything that can be done at this moment should be done at this moment.
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Old 02-28-2014, 08:39 PM
 
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so far I'm impressed. According to the Freep Duggan has recruited churches to help with the parks. Now this is what I saw in Berlin - citizens tending flowerbeds and doing the very same thing apparently out of pride. Getting the many churches involved could create an "army" of people involved in improving the city.

Installing security cameras on buses, installing efficient and long-lasting LED streetlights, requiring scrap metal buyers to i.d. their customers, an affordable auto insurance program, all seem like good progressive ways to make the city more desirable.
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Old 03-01-2014, 07:48 AM
 
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If the partnership with city council and the mayor still continues to work well then I can see big changes ahead. If the city council reverts back to holding the city hostage, then I feel bad for the mayor.
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Old 03-01-2014, 08:04 AM
 
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I see, because you "assumed" you witnessed a theft first hand, then all Detroiters are thieves, lazy, incompetent, whatever. Well I knew many people in the city who were no such thing. With such a simple-minded umbrella assessment, sounds like you are just another with some weird axe to grind.
BTW I was victimized by theft a couple of times, but I could not come up with such a simplistic, hateful assessment of an entire group. There are misfits everywhere.
As long as people go over to Wendy's and dismantal & steal the landscaping during business hours and you and everybody else says "what problem"? All the solar panels and trade contracts with Canada in the world will not change the hell hole named Detroit
You got mugged twice and you are still saying---- what problem?
Misfit? Is that the new word for criminal?
The Detroit mantra of you and the rest
Hey I'm not so bad
My sister and her kids know you and know Detroit
So all those raped there are weirdos with an Axe to grind???
Moral idiocy

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