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Old 07-07-2014, 03:57 PM
 
Location: west mich
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But there are no National Guard tankers in Detroit. No one has sent any form of assistance at all. Everyone is just standing back and hoping someone else will address the elephant in the room. It's a mix of "not my problem," as detwahDJ said, and of denialism stemming from disbelief that people could suffer and be poor in the most powerful nation on earth (so powerful that it can't even solve its own problems!).
Not only disbelief. We know the world is full of "all about me, you go to hell" sociopaths, and they have found the repub party and the Fox News gratifying "rays of sunshine" to bask in.
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They do not need tankers.....they need to get off of their lazy butts and haul water or, pay their bill.
Typical disgustingly hypocritical RW rhetoric - so there are plenty of jobs out there but "shiftless" Detroiters don't want them.
Then why do conservatives complain about "obscene" unemployment under Obama? First there are plenty of jobs, then there is "horrible unemployment" because of Obama. Yep, you want it both ways.
Why don't you yourself hire them? Oh yeah - not needed, and besides, you wouldn't want them anyway. Same old talking points from the Bubble.
Those citizens are here for those manufacturing jobs which your repub corporate right has outsourced, while the growing suburbs have met the labor needs of the auto industry.

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Old 07-07-2014, 04:11 PM
 
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Not only disbelief. We know the world is full of "all about me, you go to hell" sociopaths, and they have found the repub party and the Fox News gratifying "rays of sunshine" to bask in.

Typical disgustingly hypocritical RW rhetoric - so there are plenty of jobs out there but "shiftless" Detroiters don't want them.
Then why do conservatives complain about "obscene" unemployment under Obama? First there are plenty of jobs, then there is "horrible unemployment" because of Obama. Yep, you want it both ways.
Why don't you yourself hire them? Oh yeah - not needed, and besides, you wouldn't want them anyway. Same old talking points from the Bubble.
Those citizens are here for those manufacturing jobs which your repub corporate right has outsourced, while the growing suburbs have met the labor needs of the auto industry.
This is about their need for water.....not a job.

They don't have to work....just go get a jug of water or, two.

How lazy can they be???

Or, pay their bill.
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Old 07-07-2014, 04:38 PM
 
Location: west mich
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This is about their need for water.....not a job.

They don't have to work....just go get a jug of water or, two.

How lazy can they be???

Or, pay their bill.
You don't survive on a "jug or two" of water. How about people without transportation? You would be fine with long lines of desperate people in public parks etc so you, in your outstate disdain for Detroit residents, could then point fingers at them as "savages" for your own self-validation? Your ongoing uninformed Limbaugh-talking-point responses suggest that is all you're really about. Say it ain't so.

Oh, and it is about employment which leads to more prosperity, a better tax base, and everything else - including people who can pay their bills. In your incoherent and vapid views from afar, it sounds like you just have some axe to grind.
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Old 07-07-2014, 06:53 PM
 
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You don't survive on a "jug or two" of water. How about people without transportation? You would be fine with long lines of desperate people in public parks etc so you, in your outstate disdain for Detroit residents, could then point fingers at them as "savages" for your own self-validation? Your ongoing uninformed Limbaugh-talking-point responses suggest that is all you're really about. Say it ain't so.

Oh, and it is about employment which leads to more prosperity, a better tax base, and everything else - including people who can pay their bills. In your incoherent and vapid views from afar, it sounds like you just have some axe to grind.
No axe....they just need to pay their bills or, haul water.....really very simple.
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Old 07-07-2014, 07:10 PM
 
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Another thing to do is the city give back all the money that people did pay for the last few years.

Then give EVERONE free running water.....problem solved.
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Old 07-08-2014, 08:00 AM
 
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Wow, from the city with the highest income nationwide in the 50's to half of the population not being able to pay their water bills today. The US is really starting to have 3rd world problems. I don't find the idea the UN should help so bad actually. Maybe us Europeans too should reserve part of our development aid for the United States. We are always willing to help poor countries.
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Old 07-13-2014, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Area, Michigan
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I'm confuse about this as activist are saying that people are not getting shut off notice. Then the same activist makes a point on another argument that the city has the highest illiteracy.

I'm guessing what's going on is that many residents are throwing away the notice thinking they won't shut off the water. The water dept called the bluff and now people are getting upset.

There is even a payment plan that people can use with the water dept.

Detroit/suburban residents are able to afford this bills. They just don't prioritize where the money should go. Ever notice a person using wic card and having $180 pair of shoes, $400 smartphone and a coach bag?
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Old 07-13-2014, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Detroit/suburban residents are able to afford this bills. They just don't prioritize where the money should go. Ever notice a person using wic card and having $180 pair of shoes, $400 smartphone and a coach bag?
Still, there's no information that these are the same people that are protesting. This is just a wild generalized assumption.
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Old 07-13-2014, 06:38 PM
 
Location: west mich
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I'm confuse about this as activist are saying that people are not getting shut off notice. Then the same activist makes a point on another argument that the city has the highest illiteracy.

I'm guessing what's going on is that many residents are throwing away the notice thinking they won't shut off the water. The water dept called the bluff and now people are getting upset.

There is even a payment plan that people can use with the water dept.

Detroit/suburban residents are able to afford this bills. They just don't prioritize where the money should go. Ever notice a person using wic card and having $180 pair of shoes, $400 smartphone and a coach bag?
Quite simplistic imo. No I never checked poor people's shoes or iPhones, and other than indulging in gross assumption I have no way of determining their true situation by looking at them. This sounds a bit like the fictitious "Cadillac welfare queen" of Ronald Reagan, but are you aware that some of the "deadbeats" are corporations?
Detroit water department now sending shut-off crews to just commercial customers | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

IMO they are sending shutoff notices in an effort to get real deadbeats to pony up. They should not be shutting off the truly impoverished.
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Old 07-16-2014, 06:52 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Looks now like the corporatization of Detroit is in progress. Previously I wasn't sure if Snyder was part of this.
Shutting off water so toilets can't even be flushed will turn certain neighborhoods into third-world status. Snyder was elected by voters because outstaters want a corporate CEO running things and they don't like Detroit much, so he is running the state like Bain Capital "harvesting" the city. Since privatization is "always better" the total corporate right-wing agenda for maximizing profits is to outsource American jobs for cheap labor, cut off lifelines for the displaced, and hopefully force the impoverished out of the area. When Americans become as desperate as third-world workers, problem "solved".
Like I have said, regressive conservatives can't formulate real solutions to anything, but they know precisely what they don't like and what to "be rid of".
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