safe places to live close to wayne state (Detroit, Warren: apartments, condo)

[detshen]

It's nowhere near as bad as some paranoid people would have you believe. Go down there talk to the students, talk to the police force,request crime reports and compare them to other colleges. Those schools have a great stake in assuring the safety of students.

[downthathighway]

Originally Posted by homer8

My daughter is looking at going to the college for creative studies near wayne state university. Is there safe housing next to campus that would be cheaper than living on campus or would any of you have any suggestions or information about the safety of the surrounding area. I would be very thankful for any information

al

As I mentioned earlier in another thread, My friends' daughter is a student at Wayne and lives there.
He is a Secret Service agent, lives out of state but feels HIS daughter is safe at Wayne. She could have enrolled at any number of colleges and in fact pays out of state tuition to attend her mother's alma mater. If that isn't a good recommendation, I don't know...

On this post, 'Left Click' on my user name. Scroll down to send private message or email and I may be able to put you in touch with them to get more info.

[detshen]

In some ways I think I was safer going to school down there. Most of the students who live in the area tend to be of the artistic/creative type and are more interested in drinking coffee and discussing art or philosophy than slamming Jello shots with potential date rapists. They also tend to be more aware and on guard because they live in the city and this helps keep them safe for the rest of their lives. I accidently found myself in a SCARY place in NYC once and knew I needed to act with confidence cause I would be a target if I appeared to be a scared little sheltered girl.

[cardwellave]

Originally Posted by Acupunk

It's nowhere near as bad as some paranoid people would have you believe. Go down there talk to the students, talk to the police force,request crime reports and compare them to other colleges. Those schools have a great stake in assuring the safety of students.

Amen. Second this opinion.

[Sunvixen]

Videos language may not be suitable for children. You may mute the videos by sliding the volume bar all the way to the left.


Here are some neighbors in Detroit fighting over a 40 ouncer of BEER:

YouTube - dikes vs drunk (detroit)



You have GOT TO SEE THIS ONE!!! (It will show you that it is not just MY OPINION):

You will see these young gentlemen on their way to work calling Detroit a GUTTER and filming to prove their point. I must ADMIT there IS a woman walking by herself in this video. They also say that they live in Detroit, so it is an honest opinion of Detroit BY DETROITERS:

DETROIT MOTOR CITY:

YouTube - Detroit Motor city




Here is A Tour of Detroit's Ghetto ("Neighborhoods), Part 2: (Please notice that when you see a lange space of land it was once a tree lined street!! Yes, all that extra space is where houses used to stand. There are many blocks that only contain 1 or 2 houses where 40 or 50 used to be! Yet there are people who are angry at the Suburbs for not wanting Detroit to expand OUTWARDS! Like, there isn't enough ROOM right inside to build in?)

YouTube - A Tour Of Detroit's Ghetto: Part 2



Here are some more of Detroit's NEIGHBORHOODS:

YouTube - We Almost Lost Detroit


Here are some GIRLS fighting after school in what looks like a pretty decent part of the city:

YouTube - Big Gurls under attack



HERE is a video made by an area MINISTRY:


YouTube - The Hood




It is not being paranoid to be careful!!! especially when it comes to your children.


Here is a video called "DETROIT, MICHIGAN THE DOCUMENTARY"


"Detroit is known as the city of overkill, it shows in our fashion, talent, mentality, and unfortunately our violence. These unique values lie apathetic in the heart of a Detroiter, as you'll soon learn in this documentary."

YouTube - DETROIT, MICHIGAN: THE DOCUMENTARY

Listen to what the man driving the car says at :57 seconds. Is HE just being paranoid?

As for talking to law enforcement, I think that is a GREAT idea! I know more than a dozen officers who have transferred OUT of Detroit in just the past couple years because it just got too dangerous. Call cities like Warren and ask THEM if they would let their daughter LIVE on campus inside Detroit.

How can you consider a city "safe" when it often takes HOURS for the police to even respond to a 911 call? Mayor Kwame was on tv just yesterday (spinning) that Detroit is 500 police officers short!!! And that we are having "a hard time finding qualified individuals to fill those positions who:

-have no felony convictions
-can READ and pass the written test " (FACT: 48% of Detroit is illiterate)

Does this sound like a city that knows it's behind from a hole in the ground to you?

JUST DO A SEARCH FOR CITY TO CITY COMPARISONS ON CRIME STATISTICS. You don't have to believe ME, but the numbers aren't going to lie.



Here are a couple quotes from that "We Almost Lost Detroit" Video:

- "We have our own war over here, we don't have to go to Iraq"

- "Over the years, I have gone to more funerals than graduations."



I've said what I want to say. I am ONLY trying to honestly inform a parent about the possible safety risks their child could experience. I did not lie and I am not paranoid. I think that the ODDS of being safe at night in the burbs outweighs the odds in the city 100 fold. I would not risk my own daughter's safety.


It's just TOO EASY for a car full of guys to pull up to a girl and snatch her and take her to one of the thousands of abandoned buildings and gang rape her without anybody seeing anything. It's all about crime stats, and Detroit's are far worse than the suburb's. I wouldn't want my daughter to end up as a crime statistic.


I would gladly let my own mother walk alone to the corner store in Troy, in Birmingham, in the northern part of Warren, in Sterling Heights, in Royal Oak,... I would NEVER let her out of my site in 90% of Detroit.


I wish you luck, wisdom and best wishes to your daughter, CCS is a great school!

[Slappy san]

Seems off topic or are all these about the area about WSU?

[Sunvixen]

Originally Posted by Slappy san

Seems off topic or are all these about the area about WSU?

I do not think it is off topic at all. You are yourself, in Detroit, the next time you are by Wayne State or CCS, start driving in any direction. How long will it take until you are in a neighborhood exactly like those? A minute? Two minutes? Three? Not very long. It is very sad and very embarrassing, but it is also very true.

I posted those so a parent unfamiliar with the Wayne State/CCS area can SEE with their own eyes what the very CLOSEST surrounding area is like. Those areas are not far from there. I am not trying to mislead. But, if the daughter lives on/near campus, this is what she will be driving through to go grocery shopping, to go out...sometimes at NIGHT. It's my opinion that it is not safe for a young girl to live there.



Some of you disagree with me but I have been waiting for somebody to post any "proof" to the contrary.

And, please, before anybody else implies that I am paranoid, ask yourself how you would feel if this young lady came here and something bad happened to her because she wasn't prepared for the reality of living in America's most dangerous city? There is more crime in Detroit than in COMPTON. Here is the link to back me up:

Study: Detroit most dangerous city - Crime & courts - MSNBC.com

[Slappy san]

Originally Posted by Sunvixen

I do not think it is off topic at all. You are yourself, in Detroit, the next time you are by Wayne State or CCS, start driving in any direction. How long will it take until you are in a neighborhood exactly like those? A minute? Two minutes? Three? Not very long. It is very sad and very embarrassing, but it is also very true.

I posted those so a parent unfamiliar with the Wayne State/CCS area can SEE with their own eyes what the very CLOSEST surrounding area is like. Those areas are not far from there. I am not trying to mislead. But, if the daughter lives on/near campus, this is what she will be driving through to go grocery shopping, to go out...sometimes at NIGHT. It's my opinion that it is not safe for a young girl to live there.



Some of you disagree with me but I have been waiting for somebody to post any "proof" to the contrary.

And, please, before anybody else implies that I am paranoid, ask yourself how you would feel if this young lady came here and something bad happened to her because she wasn't prepared for the reality of living in America's most dangerous city? There is more crime in Detroit than in COMPTON. Here is the link to back me up:

Study: Detroit most dangerous city - Crime & courts - MSNBC.com

But are these videos about the area right next to WSU? And the grocery store is right across the freeway and you will not drive through a bad neighborhood. It's literally opposite the campus and the WSU stadium. I walked there many times.

So please stop spreading hysteria about an area you obviosly know little about.

[detshen]

As a young girl who went to college and lived down there I respectfully disagree. I called the Wayne state police dept. once because I heard yelling, it turned out to be nothing, but the cops were there within 5 minutes, probably closer to 3. That is a highly protected area, there are close to 40 highly trained officers dedicated to the area. People are raped at colleges across the country on a daily basis. You have posted no proof of this mass gang raping of young CCS students. You take the whole city of Detroit and lump everything together. A person has to be very sheltered to not know that all cities have good and bad areas.

You are entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine and that mother will make her own decision. I'm sure you mean well but I lived there, all my friends and classmates lived there. Did you?

[detshen]

BTW, Wayne State officers are required to have at least a bachelors degree so I think they are probably literate.