safe places to live close to wayne state (Detroit: work, medicine)

[Sunvixen]

Originally Posted by Slappy san

But are these videos about the area right next to WSU? And the grocery store is right across the freeway and you will not drive through a bad neighborhood. It's literally opposite the campus and the WSU stadium. I walked there many times.

So please stop spreading hysteria about an area you obviosly know little about.

Hysteria? Oh, I beg to differ, I know the area VERY well. Please stop giving a false sense of security to a concerned parent. Thank you.



A Female Apartment Manager was just found MURDERED IN HER APARTMENT BY WAYNE STATE UNIVERSITY. AT THE SHERATON COURT (sp?) APTS ON SECOND.


Is THAT close enough?


Here is the link to WXYZ Ch 7 News:

Apartment Manager Murdered in Detroit || WXYZ.com | WXYZ-TV / Detroit | Detroit News, Weather, Sports and More


Was that one of the Apartments your daughter was considering?

[Sunvixen]

Originally Posted by Acupunk

As a young girl who went to college and lived down there I respectfully disagree. I called the Wayne state police dept. once because I heard yelling, it turned out to be nothing, but the cops were there within 5 minutes, probably closer to 3. That is a highly protected area, there are close to 40 highly trained officers dedicated to the area. People are raped at colleges across the country on a daily basis. You have posted no proof of this mass gang raping of young CCS students. You take the whole city of Detroit and lump everything together. A person has to be very sheltered to not know that all cities have good and bad areas.

You are entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine and that mother will make her own decision. I'm sure you mean well but I lived there, all my friends and classmates lived there. Did you?

I did not LIVE ON campus, but I did go to school there. I have never said that the CAMPUS itself was unsafe. Buy most people do not want to live in a tiny bubble.

I agree we are both entitled to our own opinions.

But I find your comment about mass gang raping a little misleading, but perhaps you misunderstood me. I was not saying there was gang rapes ON CCS campus. I was saying that with all the abandoned areas of Detroit, it is simply easier for a group of men to SNATCH AND GRAB a young girl (perhaps walking out of that grocery store all alone) and whisk her away.

Once again, I have never said that the entire city is bad, I have said that it has much more "bad" area than any other city. Which is true. It is also rated the NUMBER ONE most dangerous city. I didn't make up those numbers, the FBI did. Please don't shoot the messenger!

[Sunvixen]

Originally Posted by Acupunk

BTW, Wayne State officers are required to have at least a bachelors degree so I think they are probably literate.

Again, I feel as if you may be directing that to me? I should just point out that when I mentioned illiteracy, it was because Mayor Kwame said YESTERDAY that the REASON we were having such a "hard time finding qualified police officer candidates is that they cannot qualify. Too many have felony records or cannot pass the written test." Kwame said that. On tv. Yesterday.

47%-49& of Detroit is illiterate, it is another sad fact. I would like to see the city address this problem, but they do not. Many in power use it to their advantage, which is also pretty sad.

[Slappy san]

Originally Posted by Sunvixen

Hysteria? Oh, I beg to differ, I know the area VERY well. Please stop giving a false sense of security to a concerned parent. Thank you.



A Female Apartment Manager was just found MURDERED IN HER APARTMENT BY WAYNE STATE UNIVERSITY. AT THE SHERATON COURT (sp?) APTS ON SECOND.


Is THAT close enough?


Here is the link to WXYZ Ch 7 News:

Apartment Manager Murdered in Detroit || WXYZ.com | WXYZ-TV / Detroit | Detroit News, Weather, Sports and More


Was that one of the Apartments your daughter was considering?

Well atleast that is something near the campus unlike your videos. You never answered my question. Do those videos have anything to do with the WSU area? Any murder is unfortunate. But murders happen every where. Shall I grab a link to a murder in the burbs and sensationalize that? It also wouldn't shock me if it turns out the deceased knew her killer. How many people break into an apartment building to kill someone they don't know? Wouldn't a murder in the middle of the WSU quad serve your hysteria better? But it probably won't happen. Petty theft is the big thing on most campuses. So if she's worried about a lappy or purse being stolen...well that's more in line with campus reality.

All the bolding and comments indeed reek of hysteria.

I notice you totally passed over me debunking your previous post about walking through a ghetto to grocery shopping. If you don't even know where the grocery store is....how well can you really know the area? It's been there for many many years.

First hand experience on the WSU area from Acupunk and myself seem to trump your agenda.

I believe you would have much better luck with your links and hysteria in a thread concerning Detroit as a whole.

[detshen]

I didn't live on campus, I lived in the neighborhood as did all my friends, the police work off campus as well. I'm speaking specifically of being a student living in the Wayne State area and being safe. You keep posting stats for the entire city which I agree has many dangerous areas and terrible schools which I'm sure is part of the literacy problem.

It's easy for a guy in Royal oak to drop a roofie in a girls drink that doesn't mean it's going to happen or all girls have to live in fear of drinking anything, but they do need to use common sense everywhere they go. Crime happens everywhere, A crime near WSU was posted, well there was also a double murder in a north suburb. We have no info on either crime so I don't think it's wise for anyone to flee WSU or White lake township in fear for their lives.

[detshen]

Yep, there is a grocery store, a lot of restaurants, museums and libraries and downtown close by. My college experience was anything but a tiny bubble. How would a commuter student know? I lived there and I walked everywhere. It was wonderful.

[Slappy san]

Originally Posted by Sunvixen

I did not LIVE ON campus, but I did go to school there. I have never said that the CAMPUS itself was unsafe. Buy most people do not want to live in a tiny bubble.

I agree we are both entitled to our own opinions.

But I find your comment about mass gang raping a little misleading, but perhaps you misunderstood me. I was not saying there was gang rapes ON CCS campus. I was saying that with all the abandoned areas of Detroit, it is simply easier for a group of men to SNATCH AND GRAB a young girl (perhaps walking out of that grocery store all alone) and whisk her away.

Once again, I have never said that the entire city is bad, I have said that it has much more "bad" area than any other city. Which is true. It is also rated the NUMBER ONE most dangerous city. I didn't make up those numbers, the FBI did. Please don't shoot the messenger!

When did you go to school WSU out of curiousity? Did you really spend a ton of time in the area? Were you ever whisked away and raped or held at gun point?

Have you spent much time near CCS? You realize its in the shadow of the Detroit Institute of the Arts, Charles Wright Museum, Detroit Science Center and a condo redevelopement to name a few right? I admittedly did not spend a ton of time between the freeway and the north side of CCS. But from my few bike rides to check out the area for a possible rooming situation...I saw nothing resembling a war zone with bands of rapists and robbers. I did see a park though.

A young girl can be grabbed at any grocery store if someone is determined. The parking lot for the market and shops near campus is not very big and is decently busy. I hope that if some loon decided to abduct her that some of the people coming out of the shops in the center next to the grocery store would say something. If not that....I hope that one of the people coming down Warren or the service drive for the freeway would atleast honk their horn. Also...the grocery store didn't stay open that late when I shopped their several times a month.

There you go harping on the most dangerous city thing. But we are talking about the area around WSU. Is that cited as a bad area on an FBI study?

You are reaching big time.

[Slappy san]

Originally Posted by Sunvixen

Again, I feel as if you may be directing that to me? I should just point out that when I mentioned illiteracy, it was because Mayor Kwame said YESTERDAY that the REASON we were having such a "hard time finding qualified police officer candidates is that they cannot qualify. Too many have felony records or cannot pass the written test." Kwame said that. On tv. Yesterday.

47%-49& of Detroit is illiterate, it is another sad fact. I would like to see the city address this problem, but they do not. Many in power use it to their advantage, which is also pretty sad.

Perhaps the qualified individuals don't wish to get shot at for the money they are offering.

It's probably more to do with the bad rap that the entire force has received for a ton of reasons.

Illiteracy is indeed sad. The numbers are disputable though. I can guarantee that they didn't talk to everyone in the city.



** I had a much longer and detailed response but lost it somehow.*

[Sunvixen]

Originally Posted by Slappy san

Well atleast that is something near the campus unlike your videos. You never answered my question. Do those videos have anything to do with the WSU area? Any murder is unfortunate. But murders happen every where. Shall I grab a link to a murder in the burbs and sensationalize that? It also wouldn't shock me if it turns out the deceased knew her killer. How many people break into an apartment building to kill someone they don't know? Wouldn't a murder in the middle of the WSU quad serve your hysteria better? But it probably won't happen. Petty theft is the big thing on most campuses. So if she's worried about a lappy or purse being stolen...well that's more in line with campus reality.

All the bolding and comments indeed reek of hysteria.

I notice you totally passed over me debunking your previous post about walking through a ghetto to grocery shopping. If you don't even know where the grocery store is....how well can you really know the area? It's been there for many many years.

First hand experience on the WSU area from Acupunk and myself seem to trump your agenda.

I believe you would have much better luck with your links and hysteria in a thread concerning Detroit as a whole.

I didn't pass over it. I figured that the mere fact that you said you had ONE grocery store to choose from spoke for itself. I was finished posting on this thread. I am entitled to my opinion and I gave it to a parent who is probably the same age as me and may see things my way. Or may not. Either way, I wish them the best.

P.S. I have two nephews that go to WSU and live in Macomb County and I have personally taken several classes there over the past three years.

[Sunvixen]

Originally Posted by Slappy san

A young girl can be grabbed at any grocery store if someone is determined. The parking lot for the market and shops near campus is not very big and is decently busy. I hope that if some loon decided to abduct her that some of the people coming out of the shops in the center next to the grocery store would say something. If not that....I hope that one of the people coming down Warren or the service drive for the freeway would atleast honk their horn. Also...the grocery store didn't stay open that late when I shopped their several times a month.

You are reaching big time.

Gosh, I can't imagine WHY the store didn't stay open later!? Was the area too dangerous? So what happens if it is 3 AM and you need really some medicine? Do you drive to 8 Mile Rd?


Uh, yes...I certainly hope they would "AT LEAST HONK THEIR HORN" too! Because we all know that will really help!


I don't think I need to add anymore here. I think that spoke VOLUMES.