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Old 09-21-2017, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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Ugh, and in a recent development, Southfield is trying to screw over Detroit/Windsor by showing that the city and suburbs still can't worth together. Thanks Southfield. Thanks for nothing. Either work with Detroit/Windsor on a single bid, or withdraw. Your loner, zero-chance bid only serves to show that the region is not unified and still behaves as City vs. Suburbs. Southfield would already benefit from an Amazon HQ in Detroit. The physical HQ doesn't actually NEED to be in Southfield, and for the record, it never will be. Not. A. Chance. Let Detroit have theirs by showcasing a united International Metro Area.

Amazon will get headquarters bid for closed Northland Mall | MLive.com
The good news is they said they're willing to collaborate... Dan Gilbert is leading the Detroit bid and Windsor is with Detroit, UofM and Ann Arbor is with Detroit, and I heard that even Oakland Co (L Brooks) is with Detroit now.

The thing is what Southfield is doing is completely unnecessary and I'm sure Gilbert will explain this to them. Most aren't expecting all 50,000 jobs to be in one building or one place. It's not like that in Seattle.

The scenario could go something like:
Downtown to New Center: 20,000 employees
Downriver/ West suburbs: 10,000
Ann Arbor: 5,000 employees
Northland mall: 5,000 employees
Downtown Pontiac: 5,000 employees
Windsor: 5,000 employees

Now if I'm wrong and they do want it all in one place then I would want them all in west downtown, they can throw up a dozen high rises and fit all 50,000 employees in that area.
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Old 09-21-2017, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Hays, Kansas
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This has been said 100's of times, but Amazon would literally be a Hero if they brought 50,000 Jobs to downtown Detroit.
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Old 09-22-2017, 02:33 PM
 
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The good news is they said they're willing to collaborate... Dan Gilbert is leading the Detroit bid and Windsor is with Detroit, UofM and Ann Arbor is with Detroit, and I heard that even Oakland Co (L Brooks) is with Detroit now.

The thing is what Southfield is doing is completely unnecessary and I'm sure Gilbert will explain this to them. Most aren't expecting all 50,000 jobs to be in one building or one place. It's not like that in Seattle.

The scenario could go something like:
Downtown to New Center: 20,000 employees
Downriver/ West suburbs: 10,000
Ann Arbor: 5,000 employees
Northland mall: 5,000 employees
Downtown Pontiac: 5,000 employees
Windsor: 5,000 employees

Now if I'm wrong and they do want it all in one place then I would want them all in west downtown, they can throw up a dozen high rises and fit all 50,000 employees in that area.
IMHO, that would spread out the employees too many places. I think that the downtown to New Center corridor is where the majority of the employees should be. The de-centralization of the region is what has hurt the region and has probably contributed to us not getting rapid transit around here. I would love to see a campus just east of the Ren Cen right on the river , or the west side of downtown between WCCC and the MGM casino. Then, establishing smaller campuses in Ann Arbor (where it would be connected to downtown/New Center by the commuter rail to Detroit) or Windsor (where it would be connected to downtown by a gondola or cable car!).

Amazon is never coming here, but we can dream!
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Old 09-22-2017, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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IMHO, that would spread out the employees too many places. I think that the downtown to New Center corridor is where the majority of the employees should be. The de-centralization of the region is what has hurt the region and has probably contributed to us not getting rapid transit around here. I would love to see a campus just east of the Ren Cen right on the river , or the west side of downtown between WCCC and the MGM casino. Then, establishing smaller campuses in Ann Arbor (where it would be connected to downtown/New Center by the commuter rail to Detroit) or Windsor (where it would be connected to downtown by a gondola or cable car!).

Amazon is never coming here, but we can dream!
Sorry I didn't make it clear, I don't want that to happen. I was just making a point that it could spread out all across whatever metropolitan area it chooses. Of course me personally would like to see it all in west downtown to cover up that surface parking.

But I have to disagree with you, Amazon could come here. It already has a small presence here. Don't get me wrong, I know it's a looooonng shot and I would be just as surprised as you are if it did choose Detroit, but I also believe that Detroit would at least be in the top 10 or 15 ish running. It's criteria is almost too perfect for any major city to meet. They mentioned COL, mass transit, central location, major airport, congestion, ect. But they didn't say that any was a deal breaker. Seattle didn't even have real transit until Amazon took off. But the more I hear about it, Detroit actually has ALOT going for it with this bid. And the fact that Detroit is the only city that could truly absorb the Amazon HQ and still won't have as many congestion problems as other cities it's size or COL problems. Put the HQ in a city the size of Cleveland or STL (which I would also support) they would have much worse traffic problems and probably a significant COL increase. For any metro area larger than Detroit, the congestion is already just as bad as Seattle so it would just be worse. Plus they probably would have to spread out across the entire metro area because there would be no room for 8 million+ square feet in one place. Detroit is the largest city/metro that actually has this much room in a prime location, with a low cost, with a world class airport, in a central (and international) location, with around 1 million college grads (especially if you include Windsor and Ann Arbor), and with infrastructure that could handle 50,000 more employees. Detroit could definitely sell itself into the top 10

With that being said, personally I suspect that Atlanta, Boston, Philly, Denver, or Texas will be the front runners. They have too much going for them. Personally I want a midwestern city to get it.

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Old 10-16-2017, 10:49 AM
 
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I live on the east coast, but visited Detroit many times. It's my favorite mid west city. I am rooting for you Detroit. Amazon HQ2 would be a game changer for your city. Good luck.

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Old 10-19-2017, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Westside Grand Rapids
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Michigan finalizes 2 pitches to Amazon for new $5B headquarters | MLive.com

Looks like they are ready to submit. Although it's all very vague.
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Old 10-19-2017, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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Gilbert and Co's Detroit-hype video for Amazon Detroit and their HQ2. I won't lie, the whole Amazon thing is a long shot, but regardless of that if I hadn't already moved here I'd probably want to move here after this. What a seriously cool city we live in! (..near)


Detroit. Move here. Move the world.
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Old 10-19-2017, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Back in the Mitten. Formerly NC
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Gilbert and Co's Detroit-hype video for Amazon Detroit and their HQ2. I won't lie, the whole Amazon thing is a long shot, but regardless of that if I hadn't already moved here I'd probably want to move here after this. What a seriously cool city we live in! (..near)


Detroit. Move here. Move the world.
They did a good job.
Even if they don't get HQ2, if they get that video out there enough, I'm sure they could attract some smaller businesses or some smaller satellite offices.
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Old 10-20-2017, 04:48 AM
 
Location: about to move in 2 months! excited
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"And it’s setting out some of the parameters that it wants to follow: a city must have a population of more than 1 million people, be a “stable and business-friendly environment”, be “urban or suburban locations with the potential to attract and retain strong technical talent,” and “communities that think big and creatively when considering locations and real estate options.”

I think that disqualifies us unless you can come up with a plan to import 300,000 people into Detroit overnight.
LOL, I got an idea on how to import 300,000 people overnight, how 'bout the city makes the casinos in downtown a new Las Vegas, it would attract so many people to come live in Detroit, ladies and gentleman, I present to you the sin city of the Midwest. lol
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Old 10-20-2017, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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Love the video. Even if (or most likely WHEN) we don't get the bid, this was still a great thing for the entire state of MI. I honestly don't think I've ever seen the region come together like this and have Detroit's back. Even Windsor, Flint, and Toledo has Detroit's back on this. Even they know that they can benefit from a Detroit that is healthy.

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LOL, I got an idea on how to import 300,000 people overnight, how 'bout the city makes the casinos in downtown a new Las Vegas, it would attract so many people to come live in Detroit, ladies and gentleman, I present to you the sin city of the Midwest. lol
Well, Detroit is bigger than Vegas now. And it's metro area is way bigger than the Vegas area. But Amazon was talking about msa so Detroit more then meets the requirement in that regard.
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