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Originally Posted by nycjefftrain
Good point about Buffalo. I do consider western NY and western PA as part of that rustbelt "great lakes region". My reasoning is Buffalo is closer to Detroit in terms of industry and distance than it it to NYC. And Pittsburgh shares more of that hardworking, rustbelt image than the other big city in its state, Philly. Basically, draw a line at about Rochester, NY south..cut just east of Pittsburgh and then cut west along the Ohio River to Illinois, north through Wisconsin, back east between the UP of Michigan and the Canadian border and then back south all along the Lake Huron and Lake Erie shoreline and that is the good ole great lakes, rustbelt region of the midwest!! IMHO, of course....
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We were chatting about this over in the general forum and I was surprised how many Pittsburghers would disagree with you. I think Detroiters always consider Pittsburgh one of their own, Pittsburghers seem to lean more eastern.
There's an effort underway to re-brand the "rust belt" cities. One proposal is "blue belt" to establish the tie to the Great Lakes. It really is its own region - far more culturally and economically aligned with the Northeast industrial / northern forest mindset (thanks to the St. Lawrence Seaway and Erie Canal I'm sure) than the plains Midwest, but still decidedly Midwestern.
Plus - the Great Lakes are probably the most unique and under appreciated natural resource in the U.S. So fricking gorgeous.
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