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Old 02-03-2016, 09:03 PM
 
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Canton is your typical new housing suburbia (5 to 10 years). The only thing interesting about it is that it has the only IKEA in Michigan. Okay place to live if you're looking for newer housing in a quiet area and right off the freeway.




The north and west side is a bunch of 10-15 year old housing and strip malls. The south side (particularly 15 mile and Gratiot) is a little more older and poorer with a fair bit of property crime. There's a lot of low income housing developments in this area.
Depends where you are in Canton. I'm sure there's some new housing stock but a lot of it is starting to age poorly IMO. I don't know when most of it was built but eyeballing I would guess 60s-90s and a lot of the retail on the main drags looks very run down... like you're stuck at strip malls from the early 90s.

That being said, a lot of people love Canton. Bang for buck etc.
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Old 02-04-2016, 09:48 AM
 
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Depends where you are in Canton. I'm sure there's some new housing stock but a lot of it is starting to age poorly IMO.
Which specific areas of Canton look run down to you?
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Old 02-07-2016, 09:38 AM
 
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Hi everyone! I am relocating to the area from NC and need help picking an area to live in. I've been looking at these forums but some strings/responses are pretty old so it would be great to get some updated opinions on areas.

My partner will be working in Ypsi and I most likely in downtown Detroit. What are some good western suburbs in between downtown and Ypsi (maybe off I-94)? I only know a little about some of the eastern cities. We'd prefer to be closer to Detroit. A little bit about us:

- Early 30s young professionals, no children
- A budget of about $1,200/month to rent a house
- We enjoy nightlife and local festivals, live music, activities (weekend warrior types I guess)
- We have 2 active dogs so greenways, trails and parks are important
- A safe area is more important to us than proximity to activities

Any ideas? We like the idea of a Royal Oak type city, but that is a little far for his commute. We also loved Hamtramck's potential. Thanks!
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Hi everyone! I am relocating to the area from NC and need help picking an area to live in. I've been looking at these forums but some strings/responses are pretty old so it would be great to get some updated opinions on areas.

My partner will be working in Ypsi and I most likely in downtown Detroit. What are some good western suburbs in between downtown and Ypsi (maybe off I-94)? I only know a little about some of the eastern cities. We'd prefer to be closer to Detroit. A little bit about us:

- Early 30s young professionals, no children
- A budget of about $1,200/month to rent a house
- We enjoy nightlife and local festivals, live music, activities (weekend warrior types I guess)
- We have 2 active dogs so greenways, trails and parks are important
- A safe area is more important to us than proximity to activities

Any ideas? We like the idea of a Royal Oak type city, but that is a little far for his commute. We also loved Hamtramck's potential. Thanks!
For the easiest commute times toward both Ypsi and Detroit, your best options would be suburbs along 275 - Canton, Plymouth Township, Northville Township, Livonia, Novi and Farmington Hills. However, with Novi and Farmingtin Hills, the commute downtown is a little longer due to rush hour traffic but otherwise is about the same commute times.

Dearborn or Allen Park could possibly work as well since the commute to Ypsi is typically reverse the commute flow.

You might get a more responses if you started a new thread.
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Old 02-08-2016, 11:22 AM
 
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Honestly, here's what I think on a scale of 1-20. Crime, blight, curb appeal, relative wealth, schools and local business all play into my rating.

Good Suburbs:
Berkley - 20/20
Birmingham - 18/20
Ferndale - 17/20
Bloomfield Hills - 16/20
Pleasant Ridge - 16/20
Huntington Woods - 15/20
Sterling Heights - 14/20
Bloomfield - 14/20
Grosse Pointe - 14/20

OK (Somewhat Good) Suburbs:
Livonia - 13/20
Harper Woods (from what I know) - 11/20
Saint Clair Shores - 11/20
Clawson - 11/20
Hazel Park - 10/20
Dearborn - 10/20
Troy - 9/20

OK (Somewhat Bad) Suburbs:
Madison Heights - 7/20
Royal Oak - 6/20
Auburn Hills - 6/20
Warren - 6/20
Dearborn Heights - 6/20
Clinton - 6/20
Romulus - 6/20
Waterford - 6/20
Wayne - 6/20
Eastpointe - 5/20
Chesterfield - 4/20


Bad Suburbs:
River Rouge - 3/20
Roseville - 2/20
Oak Park - 2/20
Southfield - 2/20
Redford - 2/20
Mount Clemens - 2/20
Hamtramck - 2/20
Center Line - 1/20
Westland - 1/20

[b]Suburbs to Absolutely Avoid:[/B
Highland Park
Pontiac
Inkster
Melvindale
Royal Oak Township
You must be on the ferndale city council to put them that high on the list. There are still a lot of run-down houses with messy yards, the schools haven't been all the great for years, and its mostly lower-middle to middle class. People like it because it ISNT wealthy, which is often associated with pretention or greed. Berkley isnt wealthy, but not poor either. Solidly middle-class. Most houses arent very large, so i still argue about the "wealth" part, unless you mostly mean "low poverty rate".
Switch Madison Heights and Hazel Park. I live in HP but I'm honest. HP is lower income and older.Madison Heights has a lot more contemporary housing and not the restrictive 40-foot lots. There are also a lot of all-brick neighborhoods that age better whereas HP has wood and aluminum houses.Madison Heights has a lot of good local businesses, especially Asian specialty stores. Clawson is cleaner and safer than both, it just lacks much in the way of local business.
Southfield seems too low. There are some property crime concerns (theft,etc), and the neighborhoods are aging, but the strong business community keeps them going. All the office workers patronize the diners and other establishments.Maybe not local businesses yet, but those can thrive as a result of being in such a busy area. And the north side of town has Birmingham schools, so that alone should throw them out of the bottom.
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Old 02-08-2016, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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For the easiest commute times toward both Ypsi and Detroit, your best options would be suburbs along 275 - Canton, Plymouth Township, Northville Township, Livonia, Novi and Farmington Hills. However, with Novi and Farmingtin Hills, the commute downtown is a little longer due to rush hour traffic but otherwise is about the same commute times.

Dearborn or Allen Park could possibly work as well since the commute to Ypsi is typically reverse the commute flow.

You might get a more responses if you started a new thread.
My SO and I have this exact split... we considered all of the above and ultimately settled on Washtenaw County with me bearing the brunt of the commute because I ultimately placed a greater value on the A2 lifestyle than my extra 30 minutes per day of drive time.

Best advice, Plymouth has basically everything you would want and is within easy driving range of the major freeways you will need. It's a bit more staid than Royal Oak or Ferndale or Ypsilanti/Ann Arbor in terms of nightlife, but it's walkable and filled with parks and trails. You have a state park just to the west on M-14.
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:17 AM
 
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My SO and I have this exact split... we considered all of the above and ultimately settled on Washtenaw County with me bearing the brunt of the commute because I ultimately placed a greater value on the A2 lifestyle than my extra 30 minutes per day of drive time.

Best advice, Plymouth has basically everything you would want and is within easy driving range of the major freeways you will need. It's a bit more staid than Royal Oak or Ferndale or Ypsilanti/Ann Arbor in terms of nightlife, but it's walkable and filled with parks and trails. You have a state park just to the west on M-14.
You are going to be hard-pressed to find a house for rent in Plymouth for $1,200. If there are no houses in that price range in Plymouth, I would suggest Westland, which has little nightlife and is not walkable, but is only a few miles from Plymouth and has a couple large parks/trails in or near it (Hines Drive, Holiday Nature Preserve, Nankin Mills).

The couple should consider the area around downtown West Dearborn. There are plenty of restaurants there, and a well as beautiful hilly neighborhoods and a couple nice trails north and east of the downtown area.

What is exactly is the "A2 lifestyle"? The college life?
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:40 AM
 
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You must be on the ferndale city council to put them that high on the list. There are still a lot of run-down houses with messy yards, the schools haven't been all the great for years, and its mostly lower-middle to middle class. People like it because it ISNT wealthy, which is often associated with pretention or greed. Berkley isnt wealthy, but not poor either. Solidly middle-class. Most houses arent very large, so i still argue about the "wealth" part, unless you mostly mean "low poverty rate".
Switch Madison Heights and Hazel Park. I live in HP but I'm honest. HP is lower income and older.Madison Heights has a lot more contemporary housing and not the restrictive 40-foot lots. There are also a lot of all-brick neighborhoods that age better whereas HP has wood and aluminum houses.Madison Heights has a lot of good local businesses, especially Asian specialty stores. Clawson is cleaner and safer than both, it just lacks much in the way of local business.
Southfield seems too low. There are some property crime concerns (theft,etc), and the neighborhoods are aging, but the strong business community keeps them going. All the office workers patronize the diners and other establishments.Maybe not local businesses yet, but those can thrive as a result of being in such a busy area. And the north side of town has Birmingham schools, so that alone should throw them out of the bottom.
In addition to your observations, seems to me that the ranking was based on % white. Hence, places like MH being low ranked (due to Asians). Southfield low ranked due to AA % (even though the AAs there are prim and proper middle class refugees from Detroit proper). In other words .... egads! .... such antiquated thinking.
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Old 02-09-2016, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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You are going to be hard-pressed to find a house for rent in Plymouth for $1,200. If there are no houses in that price range in Plymouth, I would suggest Westland, which has little nightlife and is not walkable, but is only a few miles from Plymouth and has a couple large parks/trails in or near it (Hines Drive, Holiday Nature Preserve, Nankin Mills).

The couple should consider the area around downtown West Dearborn. There are plenty of restaurants there, and a well as beautiful hilly neighborhoods and a couple nice trails north and east of the downtown area.

What is exactly is the "A2 lifestyle"? The college life?
You are correct, home rental prices in the area are inflated. Plymouth does offer some rather shockingly affordable apartment complexes, but the OP is probably not interested. West Dearborn is another great suggestion... not as walkable as downtown Plymouth, but still a nice cultural area and full of interesting architecture.

I think Ann Arbor is basically the crown jewel of the state... it has everything: a huge number of parks, a dense and walkable downtown, a mix of high and low culture that only Detroit can equal, a variety of restaurant and retail options that easily outstrip Detroit or any individual suburb, immense natural beauty in virtually every area, great schools. It's like a City-Data poster's dream come to life. To me, that is easily worth an 80 minute daily commute, though other's have very different priorities. (As evidenced by the list you replied to above, where you picked up on exactly what I was thinking when I saw it... Westland is almost literally a poor man's Livonia and yet it's the worst suburb worth ranking? Uh huh.)
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Old 02-09-2016, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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You are correct, home rental prices in the area are inflated. Plymouth does offer some rather shockingly affordable apartment complexes, but the OP is probably not interested. West Dearborn is another great suggestion... not as walkable as downtown Plymouth, but still a nice cultural area and full of interesting architecture.

I think Ann Arbor is basically the crown jewel of the state... it has everything: a huge number of parks, a dense and walkable downtown, a mix of high and low culture that only Detroit can equal, a variety of restaurant and retail options that easily outstrip Detroit or any individual suburb, immense natural beauty in virtually every area, great schools. It's like a City-Data poster's dream come to life. To me, that is easily worth an 80 minute daily commute, though other's have very different priorities. (As evidenced by the list you replied to above, where you picked up on exactly what I was thinking when I saw it... Westland is almost literally a poor man's Livonia and yet it's the worst suburb worth ranking? Uh huh.)
People in AA come to Detroit to shop ALOT. Nobody I know goes to Ann Arbor to shop. AA has an ok shopping scene but it's far from the best in the state. Somerset and Great Lakes alone would beat AA. As for as the food scene, I doubt it outstrips Detroit in variety but I would love to see what it offers.
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