Is Detroit honestly SO terrible? (Coleman, Atlanta: mover, hotel, bankruptcy)

[detroitsucks]

As a 20+ year detroit resident I can say that Detroit was screwed when Kwame became mayor and even worse the 2nd time he was elected. I or friends and family did not vote for him the 1st or 2nd time and yet we still deal with the effects. So I must say I moved to suburbs thinking I was escaping all of the problems I faced growing up in Detroit and my child would not see. Yet I was wrong. I hope Kwame gets the maximum time for every charge but for some reason I keep hearing the judge at his arraignment hearing say count such and such punishable by X amount of years and or X amount in fines and with the luck we (Detroit and Wayne County tax payers) have he will get off with no jail time and have to pay fines that some how Detroit and Wayne County taxpayers will end up paying. There is a big feud in metro detroit between detroit residents and suburban residents over Kwame because detroit residents feel that people from the suburbs should not have an opinion about the kwame issues. Well the truth is this affects alot of if not most of wayne county because if you live in detroit you pay a detroit tax, if you live in detroit but work in say dearborn or surrounding cities you have to pay detroit a tax because you live in detroit but don't work in detroit. If you live in the suburbs and work in detroit you have to pay a detroit tax. Guess how the whistleblower lawsuit is being paid? Google that. Detroit taxes. Guess how kwame's defense attorney bills are being paid for his perjury trial? Google that. Detroit taxes. Yet we have had police stations closed, schools closed, bulk garbage pick up reduced from every month to every 3 months. Family used vehicles and vacations paid with tax dollars. Yes I say we because I was still a Detroit resident when this all started and even though I moved to the suburbs I still pay a Detroit city tax. To all of you that say Detroit is on the rise and becoming better because of Kwame putting in some casinos and hotels drive down John Kronk from Livernois to Western and tell us what you see. Drive from Michigan Ave. and Woodward down Michigan Ave. to Wyoming down the side streets and tell us what you see. Well I'll tell you what I see when I drive down kronk, I see garbage piled up along the streets, burned houses, stolen cars, graffiti, dope dealing, gang banging, prostitution. When I drive down Michigan Ave. from Woodward to to Wyoming on Michigan Ave and down the side streets to wyoming I see the same things. I have lived in Southwest and Northwest Detroit most of my life and trust me the only thing that has gotten better is Downtown. I'm sure alot of you will say it's a start but you have to understand that every part of Detroit other than downtown has been ignored since Archer LEFT office. It's time to realize what is going on with YOUR city and start realizing what is BEST FOR YOUR CITY. I say yours even though I live in the suburbs for less than a year but have a 5" old english D tatooed on my arm because I was proud of where I was from.

[dre71]

Kwame has hurt this city but so did young and I didnt like archer. I knew all of sw was bad and getting worse I used to live at j kronk and clippert it was bad 8 yrs ago its probably way worse now as is the whole SW side. The whole city is dead or dying.

[S6Sputnik]

Suburbs are awesome, City of Detroit aweful!

[dre71]

Detroitsucks: Southwest Detroit is really that messed up I thought it was ok at least some of it. If I was going there where would be the best neighborhood to see decay in the sw side. Also is this mostly kwames fault hasn`t detroit been declining since the 50`s.

[detroitsucks]

Randy50 literally the areas I said but if you want a specific area drive up trenton, lawndale, and cabot between kronk and mich. ave. I believe the city had problems before Kwayme but it has gotten a whole lot worse since.

[dre71]

Randy50 the best places are some like what detroitsucks said and delray,fort st, W jefferson, everythig north and around michigan ave and more really most of detroit is decayed. You might find some decent blocks but decay is everywhere. Detroitsucks dont you think coleman was worse then kwame or is he really that bad.

[dre71]

Thanks detroitsucks and johnson7 for the help. I just like the sw side the most i guess the graffiti, decay, gangs are pretty interesting. I wish i could visit for myself but probably cant for a while do you guys have pictures of these areas around like trenton, lawndale, cabot between kronk and mich I cant find any online. I found the rest on google st and I was suprised at the amount of decay.

[DetroitKid]

I wasnt born in detroit but i was raised there and i honestly top beleive its not that bad there are a lot of things wrong put its not just completely horrible

I feel that too many people are relying on other sources to form their opinion or there on stand point on Detroit and thats very unfair

because then detroit gets a bad across the country from a lot of people who havent even lived the city or at least visited long enough to see what its truely about

[BabyFly]

[quote=traveler445;3475575]First off, let me say that I have never been to Detroit and never got a chance to experience things for myself. Everything I know comes from the internet and city-data forums.


NO it's not............

I moved to Chicago last year from Detroit and have been SCARED TO DEATH with ALL the crime EVERYWHERE in the city! I'm talking about on the "gold coast" Chicago is BAD!

[shannonMD]

Detroit got a bad reputation from the riots a long time ago. The city was beautiful and prosperous before then. Can you imagine a great city in the early 1900's. My father grew up in the city of Detroit and my grandparents had a great house then. The city has just become a dumping ground for corruption.

The city elects mayor after mayor and they rob the people and the city of their money. Even though the city had an event here, it has not changed much.

I would of loved to see the city in all its glory. One thing about the city is that it has beautiful, old buildings. Yeah you may be in some parts where houses are burned down and vacant buildings. But the theatres are beautiful and you get the shows and atmosphere of Broadway in the theatres.

The city is not so unsafe, but no major or public official has been successful in not becoming corrupt and making the city what it should be. They have tried to move things back downtown and build new stadiums, but then it only fixes up a small area of the city and does not get the attention where it is needed. You can also drive downtown when there is no events and not a work day and you see no one!

Miami does not compare to Detroit. You have the beautiful people, beaches and views there. We see Canada and the Detroit River, its completely industrial looking at times, when it could be something grand.

When my parents used to take us to the old Tiger stadium, we would pass this huge 30+ story building and it used to be the old train station. My father told us the building had marble floors, paintings and beautiful fixtures...Its nothing but fenced in. There was rumor the police were going to take over that as a new home, someone needs to restore this building to its grandure...I wish I could.

Those of us that are from here, there is a difference between Detroit and Metro Detroit. Detroit encompasses the downtown area, and the Metro Detroit encompasses the surrounding areas, and most live, work and party in the surrounding area.

One thing, you should consider Michigan and not just Detroit. The state has great lakes and beaches. Even though the water takes a long time to get warm, if it ever does, and the northern area is absolutely beautiful. You also get 4 seasons here in Michigan and just alone from what mother nature does to the leaves and color...fabulous.