Is Detroit honestly SO terrible? (Dearborn, Dearborn Heights: buying, theatres, high school)

[cardwellave]

Originally Posted by Nearborn

Palmer Park isn't Gay anymore?????

In small amounts. It's more a sort of ghetto gay than the gay that is in Ferndale these days. And there aren't really gay businesses either.

[Prncssmn7]

Originally Posted by One Thousand

I know two women who were raped at knife point while walking to stores. (respectively.)

A family member owns rentals and has had the copper and aluminum stripped from a couple while they were vacant.

That kind of stuff hasn't happened around me outside of Detroit.

I live in Los Angeles and can tell you that those things happen here. They happen all over the world. In fact, people aren't really raped on the street here in LA, it happens in your own home. I carry mace...Yet people arrive by the busload every day.

I can't stand it and after almost 8 years, Detroit will be a welcome change.

[Maxine3]

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[Nearborn]

I know two women who were raped at knife point while walking to stores. (respectively.)

How is one raped "respectively"?

[detshen]

Originally Posted by Nearborn

How is one raped "respectively"?

I'm sure the poster means in the order given, referring to sentence structure, nothing to do with rape.

[MICoastieMom]

Admittedly I am coming to the party late on this one. I have studied the video from YouTube with DH. He attended Holy Cross as a child, and his family still drives in from Downriver to attend services there. We have spent a fair amount of time driving the streets while he reminisces about visiting his grandparents as a boy. IMHO, and he concurs, much of the footage seemed to be shot in Southwest Detroit, particularly the Delray neighborhood. Until just a few years ago when Fisher-Body shut down, Delray was a thriving community. Because it is so isolated from other communities being completely surrounded by industry, without the stabilizing effect of Fisher-Body all the little Mom & Pop businesses were doomed and the neighborhood went downhill rapidly despite efforts to the contrary.

Yes, I know there are other areas that still bear the scars of the violence from the 60's, and still others that are in the same boat as Delray because Chrysler or GM shut down plants. My point here is that to depict all of Detroit as being as destitute as the hardest hit neighbor is grossly unfair to the rest of the city, and doesn't give any credit to areas that are working hard to maintain property values and a sense of community.

[Nearborn]

I've been going down to Delray for the past 30 years either to the Hungarian club (closed for years now) or the Delray Cafe. It hasn't been "thriving" anytime in that timespan. Maybe less "Dresden-After-The-Raids" than now, but never "thriving".

[Coldjensens]

Del Ray along the river is basically empty now. The only business that I found open were a really great outboard motor shop that has been there for decades (this is why I was in Del Ray - we drove around the area for a couple of hours while we were waiting for repairs to be completed to see what it was like), a bar or two and one other business (I cannot remember what it was). It appears that most of the homes are gone or empty. there are some people living there becuase our Rotary club helps with a youth center in Del Ray and it gets quite a few kids. Not sure where they live, there must be more houses further to the east. What we saw was mostly vacant lots, burned out homes and an occaisional occupied home.

[Maxine3]

You should have seen Delrey back in the late 1940's and early '50's.
We used go to the meat markets there, every couple of weeks, for the fresh Hungarian sausage.

[Nearborn]

Not to hijack...but speaking of sausage, try the "Balkan Smoked Sausage" at Mike's party/grocery store on Telegraph north of Ford on the West side. I think he gets it from a guy on the east side. A Serb told me about it. Good stuff.