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Old 12-19-2019, 05:50 PM
 
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Density... population in the City of Detroit is obviously way down since 1970. Most of the inner ring suburbs, even ones that are hot right now like Royal Oak are down in population from the peak baby boomer years.
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Old 01-25-2020, 05:53 AM
 
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I’m going to go against the grain and say that the declining inner ring suburbs will be more of a threat to instability in the Detroit metro area than Detroit itself.

In the last 10-20 years, in cities throughout the US, we are seeing more young well educated professionals of all races want to move back to cities. By contrast, you see a lot of poor and working class people of color fleeing cities to inner ring suburbs and beyond for newer homes and better school districts. This became more pronounce after the recession because it upended a lot of middle to upper middle class homes, and provided a significant opening to people who would otherwise never been able to afford to live in the suburbs an opportunity to buy foreclosed and significantly price reduced property.

This has led to a sharp decline in some suburbs who were more middle to upper middle class becoming known as areas that are no longer good to invest in. In my opinion, Harper Woods and Eastpointe are more of a threat to Grosse Pointe’s property values than the gentrifying areas of East English Village and Jefferson-Chalmers. Southfield and Oak Park are more of a threat to future property values in southern Oakland County than Sherwood Forest.

If trends continue, Detroit will become much like the Grosse Pointes in 50 years time. That being upper middle class and gentrified areas like Midtown, New Center, Boston-Edison, University District, Palmer Woods, Bagley, Sherwood Forest, Indian Village, West Village, Morningside, Jefferson-Chalmers, and East English Village, will be upper middle class islands surrounded by poor and higher crime neighborhoods. But those neighborhoods seem like safe bets for the city to invest in and bring businesses to. The rest of Detroit will take a much longer time to tackle.
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Old 01-25-2020, 11:01 AM
 
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As recently as 10 years ago, I would have answered: yes.... But no more. Detroit's on a roll, esp downtown. From my brief visit last summer, hanging out in Royal Oak, for example, isn't the thing so much these days, as it is hanging in downtown/Midtown Detroit.

There's so much newly realized potential in the City. While a lot of folks love Woodward in Midtown, which is certainly nice, Cass Ave and the Cass corridor get my prize for hipness... I like the narrowness of the street and the greater feeling of walkablity on Cass. Old, oft abandoned, apt buildings are being rehabbed like crazy and infill new starts are springing up everywhere.
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Old 01-28-2020, 09:57 AM
 
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Not sure how accurate this is, but here is list of Detroits worst to best suburbs by https://www.roadsnacks.net/these-are...troit-suburbs/


Interesting how the worst are inner ring suburbs and best are outer ring suburbs except the Points


Detailed List Of The Worst Detroit Suburbs
  1. River Rouge
  2. Pontiac
  3. Highland Park
  4. Ecorse
  5. Melvindale
  6. Hamtramck
  7. Inkster
  8. Romulus
  9. Wayne
  10. Lincoln Park
  11. Hazel Park
  12. Taylor
  13. New Haven
  14. Mount Clemens
  15. Warren
  16. Eastpointe
  17. Ypsilanti
  18. Roseville
  19. Dearborn
  20. Harper Woods
  21. Center Line
  22. Romeo
  23. Dearborn Heights
  24. Madison Heights
  25. Westland
  26. Utica
  27. Carleton
  28. Keego Harbor
  29. Southfield
  30. Auburn Hills
  31. Flat Rock
  32. Oak Park
  33. Walled Lake
  34. Gibraltar
  35. Wyandotte
  36. Belleville
  37. Riverview
  38. Sterling Heights
  39. Southgate
  40. Fraser
  41. Woodhaven
  42. St. Clair Shores
  43. Rockwood
  44. Ferndale
  45. Wixom
  46. Allen Park
  47. Trenton
  48. Farmington Hills
  49. New Baltimore
  50. Livonia
  51. South Lyon
  52. Milford
  53. Clawson
  54. Troy
  55. Wolverine Lake
  56. Novi
  57. Rochester
  58. Farmington
  59. Rochester Hills
  60. Royal Oak
  61. Franklin
  62. Lake Orion
  63. Plymouth
  64. Northville
  65. Bloomfield Hills
  66. Beverly Hills
  67. Grosse Pointe Woods
  68. Berkley
  69. Grosse Pointe Farms
  70. Grosse Pointe
  71. Birmingham
  72. Pleasant Ridge
  73. Village Of Grosse Pointe Shores
  74. Grosse Pointe Park
  75. Huntington Woods

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Old 01-28-2020, 10:26 AM
 
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Not sure how accurate this is, but here is list of Detroits worst to best suburbs by https://www.roadsnacks.net/these-are...troit-suburbs/


Interesting how the worst are inner ring suburbs and best are outer ring suburbs except the Points


Detailed List Of The Worst Detroit Suburbs
  1. River Rouge
  2. Pontiac
  3. Highland Park
  4. Ecorse
  5. Melvindale
  6. Hamtramck
  7. Inkster
  8. Romulus
  9. Wayne
  10. Lincoln Park
  11. Hazel Park
  12. Taylor
  13. New Haven
  14. Mount Clemens
  15. Warren
  16. Eastpointe
  17. Ypsilanti
  18. Roseville
  19. Dearborn
  20. Harper Woods
  21. Center Line
  22. Romeo
  23. Dearborn Heights
  24. Madison Heights
  25. Westland
  26. Utica
  27. Carleton
  28. Keego Harbor
  29. Southfield
  30. Auburn Hills
  31. Flat Rock
  32. Oak Park
  33. Walled Lake
  34. Gibraltar
  35. Wyandotte
  36. Belleville
  37. Riverview
  38. Sterling Heights
  39. Southgate
  40. Fraser
  41. Woodhaven
  42. St. Clair Shores
  43. Rockwood
  44. Ferndale
  45. Wixom
  46. Allen Park
  47. Trenton
  48. Farmington Hills
  49. New Baltimore
  50. Livonia
  51. South Lyon
  52. Milford
  53. Clawson
  54. Troy
  55. Wolverine Lake
  56. Novi
  57. Rochester
  58. Farmington
  59. Rochester Hills
  60. Royal Oak
  61. Franklin
  62. Lake Orion
  63. Plymouth
  64. Northville
  65. Bloomfield Hills
  66. Beverly Hills
  67. Grosse Pointe Woods
  68. Berkley
  69. Grosse Pointe Farms
  70. Grosse Pointe
  71. Birmingham
  72. Pleasant Ridge
  73. Village Of Grosse Pointe Shores
  74. Grosse Pointe Park
  75. Huntington Woods
1. Dearborn, Utica, and Romeo seem like of low

2. Huntington Woods, Berkley, and Royal Oak are inner ring suburbs

3. This list doesn't include TOWNSHIPS - Redford, Oakland, Royal Oak, Harrison, West Bloomfield, Ortonville, Brandon, Shelby as well as Lathrup Village
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Old 01-29-2020, 05:09 PM
 
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Originally Posted by keraT View Post
Not sure how accurate this is, but here is list of Detroits worst to best suburbs by https://www.roadsnacks.net/these-are...troit-suburbs/


Interesting how the worst are inner ring suburbs and best are outer ring suburbs except the Points


Detailed List Of The Worst Detroit Suburbs
  1. River Rouge
  2. Pontiac
  3. Highland Park
  4. Ecorse
  5. Melvindale
  6. Hamtramck
  7. Inkster
  8. Romulus
  9. Wayne
  10. Lincoln Park
  11. Hazel Park
  12. Taylor
  13. New Haven
  14. Mount Clemens
  15. Warren
  16. Eastpointe
  17. Ypsilanti
  18. Roseville
  19. Dearborn
  20. Harper Woods
  21. Center Line
  22. Romeo
  23. Dearborn Heights
  24. Madison Heights
  25. Westland
  26. Utica
  27. Carleton
  28. Keego Harbor
  29. Southfield
  30. Auburn Hills
  31. Flat Rock
  32. Oak Park
  33. Walled Lake
  34. Gibraltar
  35. Wyandotte
  36. Belleville
  37. Riverview
  38. Sterling Heights
  39. Southgate
  40. Fraser
  41. Woodhaven
  42. St. Clair Shores
  43. Rockwood
  44. Ferndale
  45. Wixom
  46. Allen Park
  47. Trenton
  48. Farmington Hills
  49. New Baltimore
  50. Livonia
  51. South Lyon
  52. Milford
  53. Clawson
  54. Troy
  55. Wolverine Lake
  56. Novi
  57. Rochester
  58. Farmington
  59. Rochester Hills
  60. Royal Oak
  61. Franklin
  62. Lake Orion
  63. Plymouth
  64. Northville
  65. Bloomfield Hills
  66. Beverly Hills
  67. Grosse Pointe Woods
  68. Berkley
  69. Grosse Pointe Farms
  70. Grosse Pointe
  71. Birmingham
  72. Pleasant Ridge
  73. Village Of Grosse Pointe Shores
  74. Grosse Pointe Park
  75. Huntington Woods
Best and worst for what? Maybe it is ranking places to buy snacks on road trips.

Otherwise I cannot figure any criteria that would make this ranking make sense.
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Old 01-29-2020, 09:03 PM
 
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This is terrible clickbait and not even worth discussion.

That said not all inner ring suburbs are created equal. The inner ring suburbs in Oakland are generally thriving. The inner ring suburbs of Macomb and Wayne are a mixed bag for a variety of reasons.
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Old 01-30-2020, 08:13 AM
 
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Best and worst for what? Maybe it is ranking places to buy snacks on road trips.

Otherwise I cannot figure any criteria that would make this ranking make sense.
From what I read in the article, think they went with median income, unemployment rate in the area..etc
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Old 01-30-2020, 01:27 PM
 
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The missing elements are walkable neighborhoods and public transit. Driving is much less affordable now than when the suburbs did most of the sprawling, and spending hours every day in a car is unpleasant before any expenses. Crashing is always a risk of driving, but here there are extra risks of slippery roads and potholes. An unaffordable car repair could make a person unemployed or buried in debt. Changing the nickname from Motor City would be a start towards the area's future.

This. The day that our political "leaders" realize that having/creating walkable neighborhoods and investing in mass transit is important, is the day Detroit and Michigan in general will turn around. Simple as that. You give access to people, people will come and work. You don't, the region will continue to stagnate. Mind boggling that we don't get this very simple concept. Invest now, reap the rewards some years down the line.
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Old 02-07-2020, 09:17 PM
 
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Density... population in the City of Detroit is obviously way down since 1970. Most of the inner ring suburbs, even ones that are hot right now like Royal Oak are down in population from the peak baby boomer years.
Interesting that population is down in Royal Oak, yet I hear all of how people want to be there and home prices are record highs there. I mean what is driving these record high home prices if population is way down there compared to peak baby boomer years?
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