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08-29-2008, 09:17 AM
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is lincoln park that bad
hi i am considering a move ot lincoln park i like the downriver area but cant afford southgate and havent found anything i like in wyandotte
i keep reading how bad lincoln park is
what is so bad about living on the north of southfield side and what problems does lp have that other downriver cities like southgate- taylor-wyandotte- and allen park dont
for 80k you can get a decent house in lincoln park or is it worth spending more and opting for one of the other cities
any help will be greatly appreciated
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08-29-2008, 10:01 AM
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I think the worst part of Lincoln Park is its proximity to Detroit, Ecorse, and River Rouge and the influence of gangs in those areas. Lincoln Park is trting to combat some of those issues with ordinances about gang graffetti and the activites related to graffetti.
That being said there are some lovely old neighborhoods. The city has a farmers market and there are other things they are doing to revitalize the area.
I cannot speak to the schools there. If you have children, that and the gang issue would be worth investigating.
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08-29-2008, 11:48 AM
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Ever heard of the old adage "You get what you paid for!" ? That rings ever-so-true when it comes to Lincoln Park. It has one of the highest property taxes per household amongst the downriver cities. Less bang for your buck, so to speak.
The schools, IMHO, are subpar. I wouldn't advise it. Then again, there's not many places where you can get a house for cheap and expect the schools to be stellar.
Also, the city has been plagued with many lawsuits over the years. I suggest you do some research in this area. Many have made mainstream news. Guess who gets the tab, you the taxpayer on said property.
A few points for now...
P.S. Here are some websites to do some research....
Main page - www.lincolnparkmi.net/
Forums section - http://lincolnparkforums.com/
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08-31-2008, 05:59 AM
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I ahve been in parts of L.P. that are really nice and quaint. Otehr parts, I lock my doors, look straight ahead and drive fast.
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09-01-2008, 04:21 PM
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I'm in Allen Park
2 blocks from Linc Pk. If you're on the border of Rouge/Ecorse chances are that's where you'll run into problems. I've known lots of people from LP, none of them
"bad." Let's face it, the whole downriver area is going downhill to a certain extent. It's the economics. I'd live in LP. The ONE THING I would be worried about is the police dept. They've had a bad rap-deservidly- for decades. As for the schools, well none of them are really any better than the other. I wouldn't put my child in public schools anywhere/anyway. Charter is the way to go. I've lived in 5-6 cities in the surrounding burbs, one of them Canton. I wouldn't live there again. It's the people that make/break a "community." Taylor is shaking off it's bad rep. Go further south where the growth is if you're young, but LP is no worse than any other dwnriver community.
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09-02-2008, 12:53 PM
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You can get a decent house in pretty much any of the downriver communities right now off of the foreclosure list. I know there were tons in Allen Park under 100k when we had ours on the market just a couple months back. I toured one myself listed for 79,900 that the bank would have likely accepted 65k for. If you look and work with an experienced agent, they can get you a great deal downriver.
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09-07-2008, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by zakian
Let's face it, the whole downriver area is going downhill to a certain extent.
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I have to disagree with you on that one. My husband grew up downriver Southgate) as did my closest friend (Wyandotee) they both still have families there. We lived downriver for a time when we where first married.
While I will say that things are not as they used to be it certainly isn't taking a steep dive. Lincoln Park has always had a bit of a rep. When we were teens LP was looked upon as rather rough.
My daughter lives in Ecorse (and they are desperately wanting out) but sends her kids to Wyandotte Schools. Personally I think Wyandotte is a great community. It is much more of "small town" type area. And with the housing market like it is the deals are wonderful on homes.
Southgate, where my in-laws live in the "Old Homestead" is a wonderful neighborhood. And safety doesn't seem to have been affected a great deal. For sure, you can not leave your doors unlocked etc.... like when my husband grew up there but you can take walks in the evening without fear.
Personally, I wouldn't live in LP now. Wyandotte would be my first choice. Their schools are good as is the police coverage, and the close knit community atmosphere is great.
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09-07-2008, 02:19 PM
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I say all this excluding the island.
I also grew up downriver (Wyandotte) and I would say that yes, the area is not as nice as it once was. Not totally ghetto by any means, but at one time I would have pegged the majority of downriver as solid middle to upper middle class. Not now. A lot of people living down there worked in the auto plants, so you know....
NONE of the schools downriver are that great either (comparatively speaking to other communities such as where we live now -- Plymouth).
There's practically entire blocks for sale downriver. Get a great agent who knows the area well and perhaps you could indeed afford something in say Wyandotte, Allen Park, or Southgate. I believe that Riverview scores fairly well compared to others down there. Put LP last on your list.
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09-07-2008, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by theboysmom
I say all this excluding the island.
I also grew up downriver (Wyandotte) and I would say that yes, the area is not as nice as it once was. Not totally ghetto by any means, but at one time I would have pegged the majority of downriver as solid middle to upper middle class. Not now. A lot of people living down there worked in the auto plants, so you know....
NONE of the schools downriver are that great either (comparatively speaking to other communities such as where we live now -- Plymouth).
There's practically entire blocks for sale downriver. Get a great agent who knows the area well and perhaps you could indeed afford something in say Wyandotte, Allen Park, or Southgate. I believe that Riverview scores fairly well compared to others down there. Put LP last on your list.
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Don't know when the last time you actually spent time in Wyandotte but I don't agree with you re the schools. My daughter's 3 kids all attend Wyandotte schools and are doing great. She is very active in the PTO there and stays quite involved with all that goes on. Her oldest attends Wilson Jr. High (Middle School as they call them now) and he is an honor student. They have good sports programs and the teachers seem to be very good with communication with the parents. Wyandotte's older neighborhoods, south of Eureka, have improved tremendously. I don't think you are giving it a fair shake.
I was just in town a couple of weeks ago for the Mt. Carmel Festival and the place was packed. And it was a wonderful day with tons of people from the "old neighborhood" that we used to chum with. Wyandotte has a very vibrant downtown, I believe it is equal to Plymouth's.
As I said my husband grew up in "The Old Homestead" neighborhood of Southgate, and my father-in-law is still there, and it's still a very nice clean and safe neighborhood.
Plymouth, as well as "The Island" has always had a higher level of income. But I don't think that is a measure of the quality of people in any area.
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09-08-2008, 01:07 AM
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No, Linkin Park are a good band. 
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