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12-27-2008, 06:14 AM
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Free trade and NAFTA is not working,just look at the whole country,it is in near depression mode.It's about time we start looking out for ourselves as a country.We need to protect our industries the few we have left.Our country is not structured for 5.00 jobs.Every other country has protection for there industries.We are being led down a path of 2 classes, wealthy and poor. The goverment doesnt have a clue of what to do about the loss of jobs.Until the flow of job stops going overseas and mexico,there is no future.
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This is an interesting post. Granted ht e recent economic downturn is having an effect on things, but it is a good idea to look at some trends.
Has anyone else noticed that it is not all automakers who are looking for a bailout. On the contrary, there is a booming domestic auto industry. Execpt that it's not happening in Michigan with the Big Three. Companies like Honda, Toyota, and Nissan have invested big money and created thousands of auto industry jobs in places like Alabama, Tennessee, and South Carolina. Go tell those people about the evils of free trade.
As a matter of fact, the reason the Big Three are in so much trouble is from protectionism coming from the UAW. The Big Three are going broke paying people who don't work for them any more; a problem the foreign companies don't have to deal with.
The way out of this mess for Michigan is to lower taxes and regulations for ALL businesses, making it profitable to do business in the state instead of going somewhere down south our out west. It's not 1940 anymore.
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01-13-2009, 07:40 PM
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Hi! If reference is a problem, you can always ask to be a volunteer in your local school. Then after a few month, ask the teachers you helped for recommendation. Maybe you can land a job as a teacher's aide! Good luck!
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02-06-2009, 03:57 PM
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References are not the problem. Getting an interview and being hired is. I definitely think something is on my forhead saying DO NOT HIRE THIS ONE!!!!!! 
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03-12-2009, 03:52 PM
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I can see why
I can see why people are moving out of Michigan in order to get jobs. I have been here almost a year and stiil don't have a job. I have done everything there is in order to get one. Temp service doesn't help, job interviews and each time am told not hired. I am very frustrated and when I get the opportunity to leave this horrible state I will. I will move back to where I came from and take my old job back because I know I will at least have a job there. This state has a horrible unemployment rate and yhose that really want a job can't even get a job working at a gas station or fast food by all means!!!!! 
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03-23-2009, 01:23 PM
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I can see why people are moving out of Michigan in order to get jobs. I have been here almost a year and stiil don't have a job. I have done everything there is in order to get one. Temp service doesn't help, job interviews and each time am told not hired. I am very frustrated and when I get the opportunity to leave this horrible state I will. I will move back to where I came from and take my old job back because I know I will at least have a job there. This state has a horrible unemployment rate and yhose that really want a job can't even get a job working at a gas station or fast food by all means!!!!! 
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Yes and those who get the job are job hoppers and not looking to stay long term, they want a couple checks and that's it.
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03-26-2009, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by MonkeyButler7000
This is an interesting post. Granted ht e recent economic downturn is having an effect on things, but it is a good idea to look at some trends.
Has anyone else noticed that it is not all automakers who are looking for a bailout. On the contrary, there is a booming domestic auto industry. Execpt that it's not happening in Michigan with the Big Three. Companies like Honda, Toyota, and Nissan have invested big money and created thousands of auto industry jobs in places like Alabama, Tennessee, and South Carolina. Go tell those people about the evils of free trade.
As a matter of fact, the reason the Big Three are in so much trouble is from protectionism coming from the UAW. The Big Three are going broke paying people who don't work for them any more; a problem the foreign companies don't have to deal with.
The way out of this mess for Michigan is to lower taxes and regulations for ALL businesses, making it profitable to do business in the state instead of going somewhere down south our out west. It's not 1940 anymore.
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Your joking right ? Or just not informed. Toyota is laying of contract people at an alarming rate.. they have no new designs planned until Oct. , Honda is also doing the same. How is this Booming ?
Just from your post it seems like you only know what you have been told by the media... Sure the UAW is hurting these companies right now but it's only one small piece of the puzzle ... actually about 10% so how can labor be responsible for the demise of these companies ? It isn't. There are MANY factors and yes a large part is unfair trade and labor practices.
I have no idea what you do for a living but let's just go thru a little scenario. You work for a company A , you are a designer or engineer and make $20 an hour.. and everything is good. You are buying things , own a house , a car etc. Well your company decides to take advantage of some incentives that are provided to companies that offshore. They send your job to India and pay the guy $1 an hour , provide him with a place to live , transportation, food, and health care. Well since he isn't as experienced as you were his work sucks, takes to long and now the product doesn't have the quality it once did. But hey it's "cost effective" !! Consumers stop buying your product, stocks start tanking and the company decides to offshore even MORE work to make up for the money they are losing...it turns into a downward spiral that doesn't stop. I've seen this happen at the last 4 places I've worked at.. and one of those was a supposedly booming foriegn OEM.
Okay this is only one small facet of what the D3 and their suppliers are doing. Add, CEO/Managment greed, legacy costs, UAW stronghold, lack of support by consumers and this economy and it's a wonder they have made it as long as they did !
Sense any bitterness ? I currently am an unemployed automotive designer and have seen a direct correlation resulting from these supposed "free trade " agreements and the positions these companies are in. And I have friends that work for some of the foriegn OEM's you mentioned and they are out of work too.. so I think you are a little mis informed on which companies are really booming , and which aren't.
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04-04-2009, 11:48 PM
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Ahmsmom3....you can forget about getting hired as a para-pro (teacher's aide) in Michigan. I'm a former Michigan teacher that was forced to relocate from Michigan back in Aug. 2007 to take a teaching job in north Carolina. Michigan schools are struggling so much with the financial crisis and declining enrollment...that tenured teachers are afraid that they'll be the next ones pink slipped. I don't know of a single Michigan school dsitrict that will be hiring para's let alone teachers anytime soon! Since your husband is working (which is a miracle)...have you considered trying to start your own business from your home?
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04-05-2009, 10:30 PM
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Actually we are going to move back to Kansas this May. I will be able to go back to a job that I loved and he will go back to his old job. I have enjoyed living here with all the things here to do and see but just couldn't find a job. My only hope is that things eventually turn around here for people.
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04-05-2009, 10:44 PM
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Ahmsmom3...good luck with the move back to Kansas...way to go! Things will turn around for Michigan....but not anytime soon. I heard from my mother and sister this week. They are thinking about moving to North Carolina now as they realize that I'm not going to be moving back to Michigan. My in-laws will be coming down from Livonia, MI to Fayetteville,NC for the Easter holiday...and I'm looking forward to seeing them. Things are as bad for the Detroit suburbs as they are for Detroit right now. I hear that Michigan is going to get snowed on yet again tonight. Here in NC it was a nice sunny 83 degrees today.
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04-06-2009, 10:57 AM
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The national unemployment rate is 6.1% which isn't great but not really bad. The thing is the type of jobs avaliable. It's hard to find one that pays over $12 an hour with benifits, especially here in Michigan.
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And the Michigan unemployment rate is 13%. It's not that there are no jobs -- it's that every job, no matter how dingy or low-paid, has 400 applicants.
The only places where people can really seem to get in and stay in where I live -- nowhere near Monroe -- is in food service.
You might call the community mental health center there in Monroe and ask about working as a respite provider or something similar. That place is ALWAYS hiring, and yes I know that's not a good sign about what it's like to work there.  But it seems like someone with teacher's aide experience might have a leg up in a job like that.
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