Is Detroit like Cleveland?

[jmlicb]

Cleveland's rap game is seriously about to EXPLODE, just check out Chip tha Ripper, Kid Cudi, Ray Cash(been on the scene a while), Al Fatz, Corey Bapes, just to name a few.

Seriously though, CHIP THA RIPPER and KID CUDI are changing the rap game, check them out.

As far as the post, obviously my vote is for C-town. But I LOVE the D. People are so real and a lot more friendlier than what I expected up that way. The people of Detroit deserve so much more than what they have. No joke, your downtown has so much potential but someone just needs to break a foot off in those city officials, not to mention that dirtbag mayor.

Big Ups to two of the GREATEST CITIES IN THE U.S., Detroit and Cleveland

[Tiger Beer]

Informative thread, I didn't realize Cleveland had public transporation available...Detroit seems fairly hopeless in ever having that. Not that I'd want it there, as it would have little use, but if had had it before, maybe things might be different now.

[zthatzmanz28]

Originally Posted by MamaGecko

The joke I've always heard:

What's the definition of Detroit?



Cleveland without all the glitter!

I thought the answer was "Cleveland without the Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame..."

[waltlantz]

Originally Posted by Tiger Beer

Informative thread, I didn't realize Cleveland had public transporation available...Detroit seems fairly hopeless in ever having that. Not that I'd want it there, as it would have little use, but if had had it before, maybe things might be different now.

Dude I am a huge transit booster, but the city needs to focus on economic development FIRST.

[Beavercreek33]

Sorry, but Detroit is really too dependant on the auto industry, and that is killing the city.

I am not from Cleveland, I moved to Ohio from Philly for a job, but I travel all across the country, and visit both Cleveland and Detroit a lot.

Detroit has a lot to offer, but Cleveland has it beat... by a lot!

Cleveland first off, has diversified its economy. Back in the 70s and 80s when the steel mills left, Pittsburgh and Cleveland started working on changing their economies so they weren't so dependant on one industry... and then loosing everything if say a recession or depression hit.

You go to the Uptown in University Circle and you will see construction cranes everywhere. Uptown is home to Cleveland's booming medical based economy. The Cleveland Clinic, University Hospitals, and more are located here. Don't forget about the world famous Cleveland art museum and also world famous Cleveland orchestra. Cleveland's orchestra is in the "top 5" (Philadelphia, New York, Cleveland, Chicago and Boston). This is just one section of Cleveland.

Dont forget about the areas of Tremont, Ohio City, Coventry and Little Italy. Cleveland's Little Italy is one of the best in the country, and each of these neighborhoods in the city has a different character, and GREAT FOOD!

Cleveland is home to great universities, that are truly turning corners. Case Western Reserve is world famous for its research, Cleveland State University is home to a great Law School and one of the best Urban Studies programs in the country, not to mention both have huge amounts of construction going on in their campuses. Baldwin Wallace, John Carroll and Oberlin are also in Cleveland.

Downtown Cleveland was named Brookings Institute "Best Emerging Downtown." The downtown population has grown by over 32.2% in the last decade, and looks to grow even more with the new loft conversions and new mid/highrise condo construction. Downtown Cleveland's current population is at 13,000. The downtown is also home to the second largest performing arts district in the country after Broadway (Playhouse Square), also home to the Warehouse District, East Fourth Street, the Lakefront and more museums, as well as sport venues.

With the passing of the casino bill in Ohio, Cleveland will see construction of its new casino on the Scranton Penisula behind Tower City Center start around March of 2010. New construction for 2010 does not stop there. The new convention center will start as well as the medical mart, the Flats East Bank mixed use project is already underway, 3 new dorm towers a CSU have started construction, as well as new loft conversions on Euclid Avenue. Downtown Cleveland literally is seeing construction in every corner.

The metro area has an unemployment rate under the national average, and continues to diversify its economy. A national park is only 30 minutes from Downtown, the rapid transit links you with Hopkins International Airport to downtown and all the inner ring suburbs. Cleveland was named North America's Best Transit System in 2007. Cleveland's Metro Parks system is one of the best in the country. Cleveland is also one of the nation's biggest banking centers; as well as a Federal Reserve.

I am not trying to down play Detroit, because I want it to do good. I am just stating out the facts, and the many things I have seen on business trips to both cities. I know many people from Detroit that live in the Cleveland area, and talk about how bustling the downtown in Cleveland is. A lot of things happening in Detroit go on in the suburbs. I know a couple from Livonia living in Avon Lake (Cleveland suburb) who get mad at the fact that the Pistons arena is out the suburbs. Think the more revenue Detroit could make with another sport venue downtown. People come to a game and eat dinner downtown.

I was upset with the abandoned store fronts in downtown Detroit which seemed alarmingly high, the lack of pedestrian traffic, and the sea of parking lots!!!!!

Detroit can do it, they need first and foremost, diversify its economy. I see Detroit leaders in Pittsburgh and Cleveland all the time trying to see how they can change. They can, and Detroit WILL! It will just take time and a smart goverment. Second, bring in a light rail system!

Sorry for the story.