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css9450 · 05-07-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Coldjensens

Are Hondas really made in Ohio/USA?

Yes, many (or most) of the Accords and Civics sold in the US are made either in Ohio or Canada. Some are made in Mexico. Some Honda CRV's are made in Mexico as well. They also build their minivans, Pilot SUVs and Ridgeline trucks in Alabama (or is it South Carolina, I can't remember?). Particularly in the case of the trucks, vans and SUVs, it doesn't make sense to build them in Japan since nearly all of them are sold here.

Another thing to consider: Cars sold in Japan are primarily tiny, narrow little vehicles which historically don't sell well in the US (well, not until gas goes to $5 a gallon again!). They'll continue making them in Japan while their bigger cars like the Accord will be built here where they sell well.

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Originally Posted by Coldjensens

If fords are made in Mexico, then what is going on in all of those factories?

Remember, most Fords are built here. Certain models, such as the aforementioned Fusion, are made in Mexico. If you absolutely don't want a Mexican car, do your homework and see where the cars you're interested in are made. I currently have cars made in Michigan and Ohio (Chevy and Pontiac) and couldn't be happier with them.

Coldjensens · 05-07-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by css9450

Yes, many (or most) of the Accords and Civics sold in the US are made either in Ohio or Canada. Some are made in Mexico. Some Honda CRV's are made in Mexico as well. They also build their minivans, Pilot SUVs and Ridgeline trucks in Alabama (or is it South Carolina, I can't remember?). Particularly in the case of the trucks, vans and SUVs, it doesn't make sense to build them in Japan since nearly all of them are sold here.

Another thing to consider: Cars sold in Japan are primarily tiny, narrow little vehicles which historically don't sell well in the US (well, not until gas goes to $5 a gallon again!). They'll continue making them in Japan while their bigger cars like the Accord will be built here where they sell well.

Remember, most Fords are built here. Certain models, such as the aforementioned Fusion, are made in Mexico. If you absolutely don't want a Mexican car, do your homework and see where the cars you're interested in are made. I currently have cars made in Michigan and Ohio (Chevy and Pontiac) and couldn't be happier with them.

I guess I failed to make my point. It is my understanding that while Hondas may say Made in the US on them, and they are only finished in Ohio, most of the pieces are made in Korea or China (or Japan) and shipped here. They are then polished, or a screw is added and they are declared to be made in America parts. The parts are then collected at an assembly plant and fastened together into a car. So what is really made in Ohio?

I am told that the big three are starting to do the same thing. More and more pieces are being made outside the US and "finished" here to save money while alowing them to still call the car made in the USA. Althoguh the big three do it also, it has not reached the extent of the foreign car makers.

All said and done, it appears that more of the dollars for a big three car stay in the USA than the foreign cars do. Ultimately, that is what matters, not whether a manufacturer can qualify to stick a made in the US tag on their car, but how many dollars stay in the US and how many go overseas.

If you want to support your contry, you need to find a way to figure out how many of the dollars that you pay will remain in hte UNited States one way or another and how many will go to Japan, China, Mexico, Korea or whereever.

I know that withthe big three, the engineering, mangement, banking, legal services, marketing, development and simlar work is mostly performed here while the foreign companies do very little of that work here. I do not know what percentage of the cost of a car that represents. I also do nto know how anyone can truly find out what portion of a car is actually manufactured in the US>

That information may be avialable soemwhere on the internet, but it is probably false and/or slanted depenindg on the agenda of the publisher. I am not sure that true information is avilable anywhere.

Toymeister · 05-08-2009, 08:48 AM

Why not get the car you want, that meets your needs? This way you will help that company continue the production of the product that you like.

zakian · 05-08-2009, 07:52 PM

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In the past, I've purchased cars that I liked whether it be domestic or foreign. Given the state of the industry, and being a Detroiter, I want to do the "right" thing. Is it better to buy an American car that was made in Mexico or buy a foreign car that was made in Ohio? In one case you're supporting a domestic car company but in the other case you're putting Americans to work, even though they are producing a foreign car. What would you buy?

How much you got? I don't care about putting Americans to work.
They never cared about putting me to work.
Give me a Toyota.
At 150 mph it doesn't fall apart and kill you.
My old man worked at Fords for 32 years. Junk. I worked at Fords for a summer. Garbage. My grandfather worked at GM his whole life. My uncle and cousin who was an engineer did too.
Pass. Buy German......

Tehspilly · 05-09-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by zakian

Give me a Toyota.
At 150 mph it doesn't fall apart and kill you.

There isn't a Toyota in production as of right now that can even do 150 Mph. And if you're driving 150 Mph on public roads and you die by any circumstance, who's fault is that?

Innotech · 05-10-2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by zakian

How much you got? I don't care about putting Americans to work.
They never cared about putting me to work.
Give me a Toyota.
At 150 mph it doesn't fall apart and kill you.
My old man worked at Fords for 32 years. Junk. I worked at Fords for a summer. Garbage. My grandfather worked at GM his whole life. My uncle and cousin who was an engineer did too.
Pass. Buy German......

your beloved Toyota just lost 7.7 billion and expects to lose more. They are obviously encountering problems. Sales are dropping too. must be those recent recalls.

trinkit · 05-10-2009, 06:34 AM

As a daughter of a Ford engineer, Dearborn being my hometown, this is a subject that has always been near and dear to my heart.

I have always felt that "we" need to support the companies that we work for, directly or indirectly. About 25 years ago a co-worker of mine (at a major architectural firm in Detroit) was extremely proud of his brand new Scirroco. The MAJOR clients of the architectural firm that we worked for were Ford, GM and Chrysler. I told him that anyone in the metro area that didn't think that his job was NOT indirectly dependent on the success of the Big 3 was a FOOL. Now 25 years later, that firm went from a staff of 750 employees to less than 100!

Just look at all the businesses that have gone OUT of business because their business depended on the auto workers -- be they factory workers, engineers or managers. The saying in my household has always been "no rice rockets in MY driveway!"

Although I've never worked DIRECTLY for one of the Big 3, their demise is exactly the reason I was forced to leave a state that I love dearly -- just for my own survival.

I've got plenty more to say, but 'nuf said!

zthatzmanz28 · 05-10-2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by trinkit

As a daughter of a Ford engineer, Dearborn being my hometown, this is a subject that has always been near and dear to my heart.

I have always felt that "we" need to support the companies that we work for, directly or indirectly. About 25 years ago a co-worker of mine (at a major architectural firm in Detroit) was extremely proud of his brand new Scirroco. The MAJOR clients of the architectural firm that we worked for were Ford, GM and Chrysler. I told him that anyone in the metro area that didn't think that his job was NOT indirectly dependent on the success of the Big 3 was a FOOL. Now 25 years later, that firm went from a staff of 750 employees to less than 100!

Just look at all the businesses that have gone OUT of business because their business depended on the auto workers -- be they factory workers, engineers or managers. The saying in my household has always been "no rice rockets in MY driveway!"

Although I've never worked DIRECTLY for one of the Big 3, their demise is exactly the reason I was forced to leave a state that I love dearly -- just for my own survival.

I've got plenty more to say, but 'nuf said!

YEAH!!

But when it is all said and bankrupt

who has the BETTER product?

And most importantly---

WHO HAS THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO CHOOSE?

We are and will (maybe?) always have that FREEDOM to decide for ourselves.

Should the people of North Carolina all start smoking because the state is number 1 or 2 in production of TOBACCO and so many depend on the product for income?

Ought people in Lynchburg Tennessee all become heavy drinkers because they depend on JACK DANIELS to make a living?

I am tired of being told my choice has to be XYZ.

If I own a business and I DO NOT sell my goods--OH WELL...

AGAIN---Where was AMERICAN PATRIOTISM when the steel mills closed?

The furniture manufacturers in CAROLINA? I have seen so many people on this forum (all states) who "laugh" about buying IKEA furniture and in the same breath despise those who drive a foreign car? WTF is that...

The economy os so bad that BUY AMERICAN has exceptions (NOT CARS?) and we all go to WALMARTS for cheap plastic crap MADE IN CHINA.

We use the SELF SERVE check outs cause they are faster and we do not want to be slowed down by the HUMAN working the register? THESE PUT PEOPLE OUT OF WORK FOLKS!!

aMERICAN'S have gone way too long having their cake and eating it too.

Now it is killing us with a vengeance.

The UNION has done this? The union has given us what we have enjoyed for the past 60 years in terms of employment and benefits.

It is our pettiness that has brought us to the brink of economic collapse.

We get all self-righteous about buying aMERICAN--but ONLY where cars arte concerned?--and refuse to see what OTHER IMPORTS have done to our economy?

IF YOU TRULY BELIEVE WE SHOULD BUY AMERICAN CARS THEN YOU ARE NOT--

Shopping IKEA
Shopping WALMARTS

Check the labels before you buy---If america is important then reject what is IMPORTED simply on moral and ethical PRINCIPLE...

BUT---

I WILL SEE YOU AT WALMARTS LATER TODAY...

MY FAMILY MIGHT SEE YOU AT IKEA IN CANTON MI THIS WEEK--oh wait...they are all laid off and are unable to shop for anything that the BRIDGE CARD will not cover...

"I LOVE THIS COUNTRY AND WILL DEFEND YOUR RIGHT TO PROTEST AGAINST ITS POLICIES WITH MY DYING BREATH."

trinkit · 05-10-2009, 08:55 AM

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