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Old 05-14-2010, 12:08 AM
 
Location: Detroit's eastside, downtown Detroit in near future!
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Well...mine isn't "negativity." It's all based on reality.

Having lived inside the city limits and taught in several schools as well.

Been in there and seen that as they say.

Let's see how many nice things we can say about Brightmore? Maybe the Conant area around City Airport? How about SW Detroit near Clark Park? Patton PArk? Gotta have one positive about McNichols and Myers, right?

Didn't property values at Livernois and Fort just increase recently?

SUre there are isolated areas like Virginia PArk, New Center Area and even the brownstones near Comerica Park--where wanna be urbanites have moved from the burbs.

But hey, didn't Forbes just say that the "new" frontier is the abandoned cities?

Folks from the burbs are moving into Detroit to escape the GANGS that have contaminated places like Van Buren Township, Romulus, Inkster, Dearborn Heights, Taylor, and even Southfield.

The NEW WHITE FLIGHT will be those leaving the burbs and going URBAN?
as far as SW goes there is a program (south Detroit) that has built up plenty of new homes in the southwest area. Brightmoor,Osborn comm, Northend are all neighborhoods that are main priorities for Next Detroit. There is a lot of stuff happening that people leave out. For instance revamping the Ferry st homes in midtown. I dont know about gangs because the Detroit area has never been a "gang" area. This is not Compton or Chicago lol
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Old 05-14-2010, 12:12 AM
 
Location: Detroit's eastside, downtown Detroit in near future!
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you people who keep saying Detroit is ruining MI??????? MI is one of the lamest states smh......Its not just Detroit......hello people Flint, Benton Harbor, Pontiac etc all be on the murder list as some of the top cities with Flint even before Detroit a couple of times so its just Detroit's crime that's making MI so bad?????? Oh and I watch the news I see all the crimes on there being committed in shelby township, warren, southfield, Dearborn etc and no its not the city people who moved there all the time
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Old 05-14-2010, 11:54 AM
 
Location: The Lakes
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you people who keep saying Detroit is ruining MI??????? MI is one of the lamest states smh......Its not just Detroit......hello people Flint, Benton Harbor, Pontiac etc all be on the murder list as some of the top cities with Flint even before Detroit a couple of times so its just Detroit's crime that's making MI so bad?????? Oh and I watch the news I see all the crimes on there being committed in shelby township, warren, southfield, Dearborn etc and no its not the city people who moved there all the time
You're right, it's all over the place.

Michigan isn't lame. The entire state is gorgeous.
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Old 05-14-2010, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Detroit's eastside, downtown Detroit in near future!
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You're right, it's all over the place.

Michigan isn't lame. The entire state is gorgeous.

well yea I just got a little upset...I'll take the "lame" comment back. What I meant by lame is no one investing because of crime.....nothing being here
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Old 05-14-2010, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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this post is so ignorant I couldn't even read past the fourth line. One: how can a city be dying with over 900,000 residents???? an increase from the under 800,000 in only one year???? how can a city be dying with people continuing to build apartments, homes, lofts etc. Also revamping whole neighborhoods???? or companies steadily putting buildings in the downtown??? please tell Andiamo,Compuware,Kerns,At&t,Chase Bank and the many other companies that its depressing here and oh so negative. Tell that to the foundations and people who continue to build homes and apartments and lofts here......now there is some truth for you
Ignorant??? Ha you dont like me because I am saying things that are true. Detroit is a ruin, its dangerous and it is a drag on the entire state. These are facts. You claim Detroit gained 100000 people, well we will see. The liberal groups went out turning over cardboard boxes for bums to count, counting the people in the graveyard as residents of Detroit. That is how they got the socialist goverment elected, and now that its a census year they need to ensure that the current regime stays in power. Giving Detroit more congressional representation will help that cause. You can say what you want, but I have eyes and I can see how bad it really is. I can see the burned out buildings, the crumbling infrastructure, the criminals on the corners. I find it terrible what has been done to Detroit, all my older relatives grew up there back in the 40s and 50s. I was born there, but the riots sent my parents packing. Now the areas my family came from are completly ruined, looks as if a war happened there. The people who destroyed Detroit are criminals, the people who run Detroit are criminals. You say 900000 people live there, I ask how can 900000 people tolerate the shamefull conditions there?
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Old 05-14-2010, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Michissippi
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In my small Kentucky town of 20,000, a suburb, predominantly white, lower than the national average in every crime, a high school principal blew up his own house to collect insurance money and a 13 year old girl was beaten to death with a baseball bat in a public park.

Your point?

Bad things happen all over, all of the time.
Well, yeah, but they happen more frequently in Detroit. Yesterday the news reported that a man was shot and killed at a gas station. (I think he was shot by a guy on a bicycle.)
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Old 05-14-2010, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Michissippi
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First off Im going to ask you nicely to not come in here with all that negativity. Don't come in here calling my city a ****hole.
I just call it like I see it. Detroit is my city too. Whether I like it or not, the suburbs and the state itself are inexorably tied to the City of Detroit and part of my identity is that of someone who grew up "in the Detroit area". I even root for the Lions and bleed Honolulu Blue.

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Secondly you honestly think Detroit people vote these people in??? lol you obviously DON'T know what your talking about most people in the city don't even vote...which is equally as bad....but the residents are far from responsible for putting these people in office. Besides that majority of cities in America has had plenty of bad politician. Are there any good ones? lmao
You have a good point. But still, shouldn't some responsibility for a city's or a nation's politicians fall on the electorate? I think it's a shame that Bush was elected to a second term and that the two candidates in the last election were Obama and McCain, but I blame the American people for that. I really do think that we have the politicians we deserve. (For the record, I voted for Obama and I like his personality and demeanor but wish he were more of a nationalist when it comes to international trade policy.)

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Once again a "fool" like in the title, trying to make the burbs seen as something they are not. Yes some of Metro Detroit is nice but plenty of Suburban cities aren't much themselves. Roseville/Eastpointe/Harperwoods-atlthough nice neighborhoods its really nothing there, Warren is only half decent. those trailors and the "hood" areas look worst than Brightmoor lmao. Hazel Park looks like crap as well. Southfield is filled with ghetto people. Dearborn has a rep for being a racist city. From what I hear Ecorse and Rouge are bad. I've been to Inkster and its just as bad as the city. Even though West Bloomfield is nice they recently just let a million dollar project sit because of lack of funding. Now how are all the burbs so much better???
I agree that some of the suburbs are rotten too. But many if not most are a better place to live than the City of Detroit.

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Actually there are people from the burbs (I've even met some) who have been told all there life they are better from their parents/grandparents who were in involved in the white flight. Hence why I mentioned it. You're the delunsional one smh.
OK, if you say so I'll take your word for it. My family never told me that I was better because I lived in the suburbs and I can't say I have heard anyone else express that sentiment.

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As for all the "problems" you pointed out don't even act as if that's strictly a Detroit thing. There are poor women everywhere with children they can't afford, there is violence in plenty of cities and bad government.
Unfortunately, it isn't strictly a Detroit thing. It's just more common in Detroit.

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Um Chicago, New Orleans, St Louis, Newark, Baltimore, DC, ATL, Miami etc. Most of these cities have crime just as bad and even worse. High AIDS rates, NO has both high crime and bad politics as well as most of its Metro and that is prior to and post Katrina. DC has the highest AIDS and one of the worst public school districts and is the nation's capital???? As we speak Chicago IS a warzone. Not even half way into the year they are over the 100 murder mark. 17 murders in 3 days???? Are you serious. Many ppl say Baltimore is nice in some areas and in others just like the Wire. ATL has a high crime rate as well. Hell even NYC was off the hook for the past couple of years with the crooked cops killing off people. But all of these cities get some type of "glory"????
You're right. Point taken. I think that makes Detroit one of the worst though and not the worst. Still, Chicago and DC have something going for them. They both have very active and healthy business districts and DC has the federal government and even some areas where the middle class lives.

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WRONG! in order for a state to survive the "big city" has to flourish.
Yes, but how do you define "big city"? Is the "big city" the City of Detroit itself or the entire metropolitan region? I think that if Detroit suddenly became a vacant field that the rest of the region and the state would be just fine. In that sense, I think the "city" is the metropolitan region as a whole.

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Why???? Don't tell me what the hell I "should" do! you do you and I'll do what the hell I want....if you don't like it well you can.......well you know
Heh heh. I'm just trying to give helpful advice, mate. Seriously, have you given some consideration to leaving the region? There are large cities out there besides the problematic ones you mentioned.

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You never completely wipe out crime. There is always going to be crime. As long as there is welfare there will always be young women having babies. End drug use???? Sweety there are wealthy people in rich cities in nice homes with nice cars and good educations etc that do more drugs than inner city people as a whole. There are people who make millions and go home a do a line. Direct yourself to the DPS website.....and lastly most politicians are corrupt
Well, what do you think the City of Detroit would need for a revival? I think that if someone could achieve what I proposed it would go a long way.
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Old 05-14-2010, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Michissippi
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Folks from the burbs are moving into Detroit to escape the GANGS that have contaminated places like Van Buren Township, Romulus, Inkster, Dearborn Heights, Taylor, and even Southfield.

The NEW WHITE FLIGHT will be those leaving the burbs and going URBAN?
I have a very difficult time believing that. I think people will just continue to move further and further out until the price of gas becomes so prohibitive that they are forced to move closer in.
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Old 05-15-2010, 12:57 AM
 
Location: Detroit's eastside, downtown Detroit in near future!
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Ignorant??? Ha you dont like me because I am saying things that are true. Detroit is a ruin, its dangerous and it is a drag on the entire state. These are facts. You claim Detroit gained 100000 people, well we will see. The liberal groups went out turning over cardboard boxes for bums to count, counting the people in the graveyard as residents of Detroit. That is how they got the socialist goverment elected, and now that its a census year they need to ensure that the current regime stays in power. Giving Detroit more congressional representation will help that cause. You can say what you want, but I have eyes and I can see how bad it really is. I can see the burned out buildings, the crumbling infrastructure, the criminals on the corners. I find it terrible what has been done to Detroit, all my older relatives grew up there back in the 40s and 50s. I was born there, but the riots sent my parents packing. Now the areas my family came from are completly ruined, looks as if a war happened there. The people who destroyed Detroit are criminals, the people who run Detroit are criminals. You say 900000 people live there, I ask how can 900000 people tolerate the shamefull conditions there?
obviously they can since they are here......
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Old 05-15-2010, 01:05 AM
 
Location: Detroit's eastside, downtown Detroit in near future!
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Ignorant??? Ha you dont like me because I am saying things that are true. Detroit is a ruin, its dangerous and it is a drag on the entire state. These are facts. You claim Detroit gained 100000 people, well we will see. The liberal groups went out turning over cardboard boxes for bums to count, counting the people in the graveyard as residents of Detroit. That is how they got the socialist goverment elected, and now that its a census year they need to ensure that the current regime stays in power. Giving Detroit more congressional representation will help that cause. You can say what you want, but I have eyes and I can see how bad it really is. I can see the burned out buildings, the crumbling infrastructure, the criminals on the corners. I find it terrible what has been done to Detroit, all my older relatives grew up there back in the 40s and 50s. I was born there, but the riots sent my parents packing. Now the areas my family came from are completly ruined, looks as if a war happened there. The people who destroyed Detroit are criminals, the people who run Detroit are criminals. You say 900000 people live there, I ask how can 900000 people tolerate the shamefull conditions there?
did the riots really send your parents packing or did your parents decide to move on there own? last I checked the riots only took place in certain areas. LA is known for riots more than Detroit and the riots didn't send all the people "packing". Are these people on the corners crimminals or did you just ASSume they are??? I can tell you now, I know guys who live that "life" and they're not on the "corner" lol. Give me proof that that is what the "liberals" did smh until Detroit's population is 900,000
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