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Old 06-15-2015, 08:28 AM
 
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What say you do you believe it is? I believe it absolute contributes to diabetes but I disagree that is the cause. I seen Mark Hyman state in the following article that Obesity was the cause. But if that is the case then how do we explain skinny people that have diabetes?

Cure for Diabetes Discovered - Dr. Mark Hyman
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Old 06-15-2015, 11:17 AM
 
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Its one of several contributing factors..
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Old 06-15-2015, 02:02 PM
 
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Its one of several contributing factors..
Which are?
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Old 06-15-2015, 03:00 PM
 
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That article is by someone trying to sell his eBook, which is often not the best source of unbiased information.

If obesity always caused obesity, then everyone obese would also be diabetic, but a lot of obese people are not diabetic. Heredity seems to play a part in both obesity and diabetes.


Also, some of the skinny diabetics are type 1, and obesity is not at all related to type 1 diabetes.
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Old 06-15-2015, 03:48 PM
 
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Which are?

Type 2 diabetes occurs when the pancreas does not produce a sufficient amount of insulin or when insulin resistance develops.

The exact cause for diabetes is unknown but there are contributing/risk factors that can bring that condition about=
  • Obesity
  • lifestyle
  • Increasing age
  • Bad diet
  • autoimmune reaction
  • Family history of diabetes
  • Pancreatitis
  • Cushing’s syndrome.
  • Glucagonoma
  • steroid diabetes

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Old 06-15-2015, 04:51 PM
 
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Type 2, but NOT type 1.
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Old 06-15-2015, 04:53 PM
 
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What say you do you believe it is? I believe it absolute contributes to diabetes but I disagree that is the cause. I seen Mark Hyman state in the following article that Obesity was the cause. But if that is the case then how do we explain skinny people that have diabetes?

Cure for Diabetes Discovered - Dr. Mark Hyman

Not necessarily, one can be what is considered "normal" weight and have diabetes or what is considered "obese" and not have diabetes.

Mary Tyler Moore was never obese and she has had diabetes her entire life.
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Old 06-15-2015, 05:00 PM
 
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Do a quick google and it says Mary Tyler Moore has Type 1 diabetes and was diagnosed at age 33. There is a huge difference between Type 1 and Type 2.
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Old 06-16-2015, 08:44 AM
 
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"Type 2 diabetes" is a collective term they use for everyone who isn't a Type 1 and has high blood sugar. Many of us have nothing else in common EXCEPT the higher than normal blood sugar. My personal belief is that "Type 2" is a condition that results from something else wrong in the body - it is basically a hormone issue. I believe mine was caused from a lifetime of physical and emotional stress, too much cortisol definitely raises blood sugar, as does lack of sleep. I was never overweight, my sister was ALWAYS overweight and has normal blood sugar. Also, some people can run high numbers for years and years and never develop problems, while others with far lower numbers have multiple issues.

Bottom line is doctors don't really understand the whys and causes of it all and have to lump us all into one category (my own doctor admitted this) and the only thing they know to do is dispense drugs and bring the A1c down. Weight shows some correlation but not cause when it comes to blood sugar.
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Old 06-16-2015, 10:37 AM
 
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I was diagnosed with type II diabetes right before my 20th birthday. At the time I was at college on a track scholarship, I ran 3-5 miles daily and had less than 15% body fat. My father and my six brothers, along with every male relative on my father's father's side of the family had diabetes for as long as we could trace it back. My generation was pretty young when we were diagnosed, previous generations probably had it eariler than it was found. My generation, now all middle aged, have a range of weight, with those of us also blessed with ulcerative colitis generally underweight. In the eariler generations they seemed to either be obese or underweight by the time they reached middle age, nobody was inbetween or at a normal weight. And, FYI, the underweight ones died at younger age than the obese ones.

So no, I don't think obesity cause diabetes. There are some researchers who now believe diabetes causes obesity, not the other way around. I highly suspect there are different types of diabetes II.
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