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06-10-2009, 07:54 AM
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Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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When we eat 'junk food' we end up with junk health. Most of our grocery store food is now junk food.
My suspicions to the cause of this early diabetes is the high fructose corm syrup that's now being put into most of the foods we eat...it's synthesized in the body differently than cane or beet sugar, leading to, some scientists believe, diabetes.
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06-10-2009, 11:12 AM
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Location: Tampa, FL...aka Hell with palm trees.
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Our low carb diet is great for preventing diabetes as well as controlling it. 
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06-10-2009, 12:05 PM
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Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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I went into a public library a few years back and there was a snack bar and a vending machine full of junk food. I was really surprised.
And vending machines in schools?!!!
Man, this society can **** me off.
When i was in grade school (early 70's) there was usually one (or two at the most) overweight kids in a classroom and they were considered an oddity. And sadly they were often ridiculed.
Now, it amazes me to see so many overweight children.
Providing easy access to junk food, whether in the home or in the institutions, could be considered abusive. Regardless, it's really unfair to the kids.
They're not in a position to make wise choices regarding their diet and what kid doesn't want to eat ooey, gooey, yummy stuff?
Very unfair.
This needs to change or the number of sick adults will continue to increase.
When we had dessert as children, it was considered a treat. My mom never had junk in the kitchen. She hid the Milano cookies in the freezer.
Of course, i became a sugar junkie to spite her but that's another story.
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06-10-2009, 02:21 PM
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Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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Yes, as kids most of us had our sugar addictions--I ate my fair share of candy, cookies, soft drinks (and had a mouthful of cavities from my sugar habit!) and potato chips and pretzels...fast food burgers and French Fries and pizza weren't as common then. School lunch program and no vending machines on campus...aAnd there was very little obesity among the school kids then...
But we also walked 3 miles round trip to school, had gym class, we rode our bikes everywehre, no kids under 18 had cars--
And there was no high fructose corn syrup...! I really think this is a major culprit in our growing obesity among kids and adults--and the rampant rise in diabetes, too.
Here's what one doctor thinks:
The Seattle Times: Health: High-fructose corn syrup fueling obesity epidemic, doctors say
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06-10-2009, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleDolphin
Yes, as kids most of us had our sugar addictions--I ate my fair share of candy, cookies, soft drinks (and had a mouthful of cavities from my sugar habit!) and potato chips and pretzels...fast food burgers and French Fries and pizza weren't as common then. School lunch program and no vending machines on campus...aAnd there was very little obesity among the school kids then...
But we also walked 3 miles round trip to school, had gym class, we rode our bikes everywehre, no kids under 18 had cars--
And there was no high fructose corn syrup...! I really think this is a major culprit in our growing obesity among kids and adults--and the rampant rise in diabetes, too.
Here's what one doctor thinks:
The Seattle Times: Health: High-fructose corn syrup fueling obesity epidemic, doctors say
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Yeap i remember those times well when i was a kid in the 70's as all we did was walk everywhere and play tackle football and basketball all day in the summer and on the weekends after school. I only remember my dad taking our family to either Pizza Hut or A&W every couple of weeks as the only fast food we ever ate back then.
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06-10-2009, 07:01 PM
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Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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Our town was tiny and not so sophisticated as to have an A & W or Pizza Hut...but we had a Tastee Freez and a White Castle--home of the tiny little burger made out of mystery meat and a spicy chopped onion and ketchup sauce...of course, this being Pennsylvania, we also had our fair share of cheese steaks and hoagies...and Tastee Kakes...Butterscotch Krumpets were my personal fav...the local Woolworth's had a soda fountain where the best chocolate, vanilla or cherry Cokes could be had...
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06-10-2009, 08:20 PM
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I'm concerned about my 5 year old granddaughter. She is obese and diabetes is on both sides of the family. My daughter just can't say no to her when it comes to junk food.
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06-10-2009, 08:26 PM
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Location: SW Missouri
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At the risk of sounding pro-eugenics (which I am). This is what happens when you go to extraordinary measures to save the lives of people who would have otherwise died before they attained reproductive age. Back before medicine became "heroic", people who were defective (for lack of a better word), usually died very young. Before they discovered/invented insulin, people with diabetes did not live long at all. But now we have developed the means to keep these people (and those with other similar defects) alive well into the breeding age.
So, what happens is they pass their defective genetic material along to their children. This has been going on for a few generations now. So now, instead of the human race getting stronger and stronger, we have more people who are sicker and more defective than ever including children.
20yrsinBranson
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06-10-2009, 09:06 PM
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Location: SC
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Originally Posted by 20yrsinBranson
At the risk of sounding pro-eugenics (which I am). This is what happens when you go to extraordinary measures to save the lives of people who would have otherwise died before they attained reproductive age. Back before medicine became "heroic", people who were defective (for lack of a better word), usually died very young. Before they discovered/invented insulin, people with diabetes did not live long at all. But now we have developed the means to keep these people (and those with other similar defects) alive well into the breeding age.
So, what happens is they pass their defective genetic material along to their children. This has been going on for a few generations now. So now, instead of the human race getting stronger and stronger, we have more people who are sicker and more defective than ever including children.
20yrsinBranson
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SO TRUE! Don't believe for ONE SECOND that "we are living longer healthier lives". The only reason this shows up, if it does at all, in the statistics is due to, as you said, lower infant mortality rates. It is NOT AT ALL due to healthier lifestyles, healthier food or so called "miracle drugs" that have more long term side effects than you can shake a stick at. Yet, people are too lazy to simply check with their pharmacist or do a little research after their doctor prescribes a drug. So, they just take it and suffer the long term consequenses to their health (not to mention higher health insurance rates for the rest of their lives).
It is really a shame because all they really NEEDED to do to nip the problem in the bud and treat the underlying CAUSE of the problem was to go to the RIGHT kind of doctor TRAINED TO DO THIS AND TO LEAD THEM TO ROBUST HEALTH once again.
Anyone ever noticed that all an M.D, does these days is put you on Rxs for the rest of your life?????? There is no such thing, in the repertoire of M.D.s (as their used to be), as returning a patient to robust health. (Guess they figured out why CURE the problem, when they can have you coming back for visit after visit, your entire life while they simply adjust your prescriptions---- that you take FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.
The last thing conventional medical doctors and pharmaceutical companies want you to discover is that by going to a Naturopathic Dcotor you could get rid of your conditon PERMANENTLY and get off your Rx for the rest of your life.
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