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Old 08-08-2011, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Anchorage
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Oh I'm so excited to see that someone else has read this!

I've also read Good Calories, Bad Calories by Taubes - they're both such great books, so full of amazing information. For those of us who have a carb problem, it really clicks!

But....while I TOTALLY believe this is the right course I have had such a hard time starting and sticking to it. In fact, my boyfriend and I plan on starting again this week. (fingers crossed)

Kicking carbs is brutal!

How are you doing with cravings? Or did that all end after the first week?
I read both books too and loved them! I recommend "Why We Get Fat" to most people though. The other is almost like a text book but extremely informative.
About cravings... I have a lot of experience with R&D Diet Cookies because I lost 75 lbs on them about 2 years ago and I've used them for maintenance since then.... so... long story short... I follow Taubes diet but still start most of my days with 1 or 2 cookies. I find I don't feel deprived or have any cravings whatsoever so it is something I can do longterm.
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Old 08-08-2011, 09:12 AM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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PS. For breakfast I cook two scrambled eggs in a coffee mug. Spray with Pam, throw in the eggs . . maybe 45 seconds in the microwave? Really depends on your microwave. I throw some cheese on top. Then two strips of already cooked bacon for 30 seconds. Breakfast takes maybe 2 minutes to make? Also, I KNOW this sounds gross but I did buy some pork skins or whatever he recommends? I live in the South so easy to find. When you want that CRUNCH they do the trick. Good Luck!

PS #2. Eating out is tough but it seems like everyone has a grilled chicken breast salad - with dressing on the side.
You spray your eggs with Pam and cook them in a microwave? Pam is full of chemicals - non of which should be consumed and none of which is healthy. As far as microwaves, they alter the protein chains in food and can cause serious health issues. (I don't have the time to go into detail here, but you can google this information for yourself).

Eating food prepared this way is just not a good idea, IMHO. It would much better to slowly simmer (at low temps), your eggs in some butter. I think, also that you can buy bacon at health food stores that do not have nitrates in them. just sayin'

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Old 08-08-2011, 09:20 AM
 
Location: USA
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I read both books too and loved them! I recommend "Why We Get Fat" to most people though. The other is almost like a text book but extremely informative.
About cravings... I have a lot of experience with R&D Diet Cookies because I lost 75 lbs on them about 2 years ago and I've used them for maintenance since then.... so... long story short... I follow Taubes diet but still start most of my days with 1 or 2 cookies. I find I don't feel deprived or have any cravings whatsoever so it is something I can do longterm.

I agree. Good Calories, Bad Calories was earth shattering to me and I couldn't put that thing down! But if I had to recommend one of them to a person who was really new to the subject, I'd probably go with WWGF, because it's less text-booky and more direct about what he's trying to say.

Taubes makes a point to say he's not a nutritionist, he's a scientific journalist, and these are not diet books, but I think a lot of people find the sample eating plans in WWGF helpful.

75lbs - Wow, excellent, good for you!!!
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Old 08-08-2011, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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I think, also that you can buy bacon at health food stores that do not have nitrates in them. just sayin'
I don't think that's true. All bacon as far as I know has nitrates, even those labled "nitrate free" or "no nitrates added". They generally use celery powder which contains just as many harmful nitrates as the ones containing the actual chemical compound. Even the producers of these products think the government's labeling requirements on this are whack.
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Old 08-08-2011, 10:40 AM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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I don't think that's true. All bacon as far as I know has nitrates, even those labled "nitrate free" or "no nitrates added". They generally use celery powder which contains just as many harmful nitrates as the ones containing the actual chemical compound. Even the producers of these products think the government's labeling requirements on this are whack.
You're probably correct. That being the case I would opt for a bacon "substitute" from my local health-food store's "fake meat" case.

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Old 08-08-2011, 10:57 AM
 
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You're probably correct. That being the case I would opt for a bacon "substitute" from my local health-food store's "fake meat" case.

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Old 08-08-2011, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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I now make my own pork sausage made from fresh ground pork and Penzy's breakfast sausage seasoning. If I want a breakfast meat with my eggs I just keep a few of those in the fridge and fry them up along with my veggies. No nitrates but still tasty and "no carb".
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:17 AM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Let me give you all a bit of advice.

Throw away the books by Taubes and forget everything you read in his book, because absolutely NOTHING in there is grounded in real science. In fact, Taubes has no formal education in nutrition or human physiology.
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Old 08-09-2011, 05:44 AM
 
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Let me give you all a bit of advice.

Throw away the books by Taubes and forget everything you read in his book, because absolutely NOTHING in there is grounded in real science. In fact, Taubes has no formal education in nutrition or human physiology.
At least Atkins was an actual doctor and devoted much of his life to researching the topic. If you're going to go low carb, it's hard to beat his 2002 edition of The New Diet Revolution.
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Old 08-09-2011, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Stamford, CT
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Let me give you all a bit of advice.

Throw away the books by Taubes and forget everything you read in his book, because absolutely NOTHING in there is grounded in real science. In fact, Taubes has no formal education in nutrition or human physiology.

Nutrition, no, but he has degrees in physics (harvard) aerospace engineering (stanford) and journalism (columbia). He has made a career out of debunking fake science, and he turned his focus on how certain calories interact inside the human body.

The main thing his books did for me is get me away from thinking of weight loss as simply calories in vs calories out, because thats not the whole picture.

You can disagree with it all if you want to, but the reality is, he's inspiring many others to question the currently assumed science, and cause many more medical studies to be done on diets in general.

The studies he reports are not his own, instead he has taken on a meta analysis of everything he could find, and reported on it. I think this is exactly what a science journalist is expected to do. Hopefully the medical community will continue to look further into exactly what has caused the obesity levels to grow within any population with a western diet. At McDonalds, is it the Burger, cheese and bacon? or is it the bun fries and 32oz coke...
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