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Old 12-12-2011, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Wine Country
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I hope he is. That's the key to the diet. You can't do Atkins low fat. If it makes people lose weight and doesn't negatively affect their blood lipid levels (which is almost always the case) why wouldn't they wouldn't they want to follow that part of it? What I'm hoping is that he doesn't eat all that crazy sugar that most people consume.
I agree that is the key to the diet if you are doing the diet to the letter. I think if you are modifying it in any way you cannot eat so much of the saturated fats.
I think the Atkins plan is brilliant, but it is an extremely hard diet to follow for any significant period of time.
I am a firm believer in not restricting any food groups and to eat in moderation and to eat the healthiest foods one can.
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Old 12-12-2011, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Wrong. A low-carb food plan, followed sensibly, makes it easier for many to practice portion control.
Which is exactly what I said. Because of food selection, you practice portion control by proxy. It's nothing more than a roundabout way of achieving a calorie deficit.
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Old 12-12-2011, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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You said it "faded away" in 2005. That's certainly not true. It's alive and well. However, many Atkins aficianados still prefer the 2002 edition over the current one.
Atkins diet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There may be many doing it, but it's not nearly as popular - at least by references to it - as it once was.

However, carbs still have a stigma attached to them. I would even say that it is the current nutrient of bad repute (as it was, albeit with much more intensity, in the Atkins diet's golden days), although the focus now largely seems to be on processed foods, thanks to Michael Pollan and the like. Maybe it's also their preponderance - I took a temporary position stocking shelves at Target in November and only now I've come to realize how many "convenience" / processed items there are, everything from frozen entrees to single-serving packages of soup that only need to be heated up.

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Old 12-13-2011, 09:11 AM
 
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I guess I'm the only one who actually starved on Atkins.
Low carb diets drain me.

I'm trying to figure out what people mean when they say you stay full from the fat?

I thought he only encouraged lean cuts of meat?
I always ate chicken breasts,salmon,turkey bacon when I did try Atkins.
I personally think trying Atkins had something to do with me losing muscle mass in a large amount.
Another disaster for me was the Dukan diet.

Low cal works for me,even if I just eat 2 greasy slices of pizza for the whole day,I somehow manage to lose weight.
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Old 12-13-2011, 09:23 AM
 
Location: South Carolina - The Palmetto State
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We're not active like we used to be, so our bodies don't burn the fuel (carbs). All these modern "conveniences" end up costing us our girlish figures..
There's your answer - most of our "labor" is done by machines now and we are quite a sedentary society today. Our diets, which those carbs would be burned off by working in the fields or in a hot, dangerous factory haven't really adapted to life in 2011.

Unless there were thousands of 24/7/365 health clubs in 1911?

But it much easier to blame McDonald's!
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Old 12-13-2011, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Wine Country
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I guess I'm the only one who actually starved on Atkins.
Low carb diets drain me.

I'm trying to figure out what people mean when they say you stay full from the fat?

I thought he only encouraged lean cuts of meat?
I always ate chicken breasts,salmon,turkey bacon when I did try Atkins.
I personally think trying Atkins had something to do with me losing muscle mass in a large amount.
Another disaster for me was the Dukan diet.

Low cal works for me,even if I just eat 2 greasy slices of pizza for the whole day,I somehow manage to lose weight.
Fat is very satisfying and helps you stay full for a longer period of time. But you should choose your fat wisely. Monounsaturated fats from olives, avocados and nuts are your best bet. A little goes a long way. A few nuts, or a half an avocado, or some olive oil on a salad are all super healthy ways to stay full.
I like to use guacamole as a spread on turkey sandwich on whole grain for example.
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Old 12-13-2011, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, Tennessee
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I lost 40 pounds in four months on Atkins. It's not difficult. You most certainly can eat carbs, in fact after the first couple of weeks you can start slowly adding complex carbs back in. Once you reach your goal you can have foods like ice cream, pasta. Have it one day and make sure you go low-carb/complex-carb the next. What is so difficult?

If you are eating lean and not fats you are going to be hungry. It doesn't work that way. If I go on a low-fat diet my cholesterol goes up and I can't control it. Go on Atkins and my cholesterol and weight goes down. My heart is in great shape and I smoked - before quitting two years ago - for more years than I want to admit.

When Big Ag started feeding the masses starches and high-fructose corn syrup and could make a big profit there was a concerted campaign to create the food pyramid. Once there was talk of changing it there was major pushback. You can see that a lot of the opinions on this thread are just parroting of information meant to keep the public lining the pockets of Big Ag and the FDA. http://http://www.preservion.com/new_food_pyramid.htm (broken link) Controversial death indeed. That was more lobbyists planting urban myths for the public to lap up along with their "Special K."

And another benefit to Big Business: If you eat "low-fat" and carbo load your cholesterol will go up and you can get a handy-dandy pill that the doc will prescribe. If he writes enough scripts then he can win a golf trip to the Bahamas and Big Pharm makes out like a bandit.

Oh, how easily people are deceived.
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Old 12-13-2011, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Wine Country
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I lost 40 pounds in four months on Atkins. It's not difficult. You most certainly can eat carbs, in fact after the first couple of weeks you can start slowly adding complex carbs back in. Once you reach your goal you can have foods like ice cream, pasta. Have it one day and make sure you go low-carb/complex-carb the next. What is so difficult?

If you are eating lean and not fats you are going to be hungry. It doesn't work that way. If I go on a low-fat diet my cholesterol goes up and I can't control it. Go on Atkins and my cholesterol and weight goes down. My heart is in great shape and I smoked - before quitting two years ago - for more years than I want to admit.

When Big Ag started feeding the masses starches and high-fructose corn syrup and could make a big profit there was a concerted campaign to create the food pyramid. Once there was talk of changing it there was major pushback. You can see that a lot of the opinions on this thread are just parroting of information meant to keep the public lining the pockets of Big Ag and the FDA. http://http://www.preservion.com/new_food_pyramid.htm (broken link) Controversial death indeed. That was more lobbyists planting urban myths for the public to lap up along with their "Special K."

And another benefit to Big Business: If you eat "low-fat" and carbo load your cholesterol will go up and you can get a handy-dandy pill that the doc will prescribe. If he writes enough scripts then he can win a golf trip to the Bahamas and Big Pharm makes out like a bandit.

Oh, how easily people are deceived.
Its great that Atkins worked for you. If it were not difficult more people would be doing it and sticking to it. The fact of the matter is that it is very hard to stay away from certain food groups. I have been on Atkins and was successful in losing the weight (15 lbs) and I stayed on it for 6 months. I absolutely hated the restrictions. I love to go out to dinner and I am a self described foodie. It just was not going to work for me. I know that you can add carbs back in, but it takes a long time and most folks cannot make it to that point. If you plan on eating out it becomes very tricky.
You obviously were able to overcome all the obstacles which is great.

Lobbyists for the food industry will continue to try and poison Americans. Simple carbs and sodium are everywhere. And a lot of people will take convenience and low cost over quality so its really an uphill battle.
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:25 AM
 
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I think I must have did the Atkins diet wrong. I thought he encouraged lean meats?
I guess I was supposed to eat fatty cuts of meat that were baked?

Maybe I should give it a second try,even though to be honest low fat seemed to work for me.

The Dukan diet is the one that encourages lean meats. That low carb AND low fat diet combination was a disaster for me.
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Old 12-14-2011, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, Tennessee
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I think the new Atkins book encourages leaner cuts of meat. Atkins didn't. In fact he was adamant that fats were needed for the low-carb diet to work. I find your experience interesting, jerseygal, because I went on Atkins at the same time as a co-worker. She thought she was suppose to eat low-fat too and struggled and ultimately was not successful.

Luckyd609, if you still have carb cravings after the two-week induction then you did something wrong. The first two weeks are fairly difficult - especially the first few days - but after that you should not be getting cravings for pasta, bread and ice cream. And after you reach your goal you can have those things, but if you do, make sure that the next day you go low-carb for the entire day.

Of course as with anything you do have to put some effort into it. People think there is some magic diet, pill, program, rehab that will stop them from gaining weight, quitting smoking, drinking, drugging. I'm here to say that in the end, with all of those things, ultimately it comes down to you taking control of yourself. Life is hard. Bottom line is Atkins is a fabulous way to lose weight and keep it off. If I go on a low-fat diet I feel so incredibly hungry that it hurts. It's not for me.

Moderation in everything is the key.
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