Confused of whole grains & blood sugar? (health issues, weight loss, diabetic)

[stepka]

Originally Posted by AnonChick

Huh? I never implied that not eating grains keeps your insulin level too low. You're reading into, and responding, to things I never said, or implied. Also, your brain doesn't produce insulin. Your pancreas produces insulin.

Really - you need to do just a little fact-finding. Just a little. Not mercola conspiracy editorial crap. Real actual fact finding. Like maybe a visit to a basic primer like a high-school anatomy/physiology text book. Or call your local teaching hospital and ask an actual doctor.

Also, people with low blood sugar are unhealthy. People with high blood sugar are unhealthy. Low is not better than high. It's just a different form of sick.

Anon, once again you are being rude. Of course I am aware that insulin is produced in the pancreas--the Islets of Langerhans to be exact. I have known this since I was 12 yo and became aware that my father had type I diabetes. (He never shared that fact with me--I had to learn about it on my own and spent a year before that thinking he was a heroin addict.) However my "li'l bit" of research has yielded the info that the brain also produces some insulin, b/c the blood sugar/insulin ratio is so extremely important to the brain. Some researchers connected to Brown University discovered this in 2005. I tried to link to the study but am dealing with major family issues this week and I simply don't have time to read thru the studies to find the part I'm looking for, so I will link to an article written By Dr. Suzanne DeLaMonte, Alpert Medical School, Brown University--Neuropathologist, Rhode Island Hospital and here's a portion:

Very sensitive tests showed that insulin is made in the brain. It’s made in neurons, and the hormone made in the brain is the same as that produced in the pancreas. This point may seem surprising, but if you consider the fact that every other gut hormone is also made in the brain, it only makes sense that insulin would be among them. Insulin that’s made by the pancreas and present in blood does gets into the brain as well.

Some researchers are beginning to think that alzheimer's may be due to insulin resistance of the brain cells and if they're not getting fed, they die. If this is so, then it only makes sense that the levels of diabetes and the levels of alzheimer's both have skyrocketed in the past 30 years b/c they are due to the same factors.

BTW, my mother, who was dx'ed with alzheimer's, died yesterday, just 2 short weeks after she found out that she had terminal cancer--her alzheimer's had just slipped into the moderate stage and she was only 76. Believe me, I am looking for answers and I take Mercola with a grain of salt but I don't discount him either. And I'm pretty sure that I'm not an idiot.

[TXboomerang]

You don't "need" any grains at all. You can eliminate them completely from your diet if you want unless your doctor has instructed you not to. Grains are a mediocre food with a high carbohydrate content. There are plenty of other foods that are more nutrient dense without being carb dense.

[Luckyd609]

Originally Posted by TXboomerang

You don't "need" any grains at all. You can eliminate them completely from your diet if you want unless your doctor has instructed you not to. Grains are a mediocre food with a high carbohydrate content. There are plenty of other foods that are more nutrient dense without being carb dense.

This is pure Paleo propaganda. Please show some peer reviewed data before making such statements.

[TXboomerang]

This is not propaganda at all. Why don't you tell me what magical nutrients you NEED from grains that can't easily be obtained elsewhere. You don't need peer reviewed science to look at the nutrient content of a food and see that there is nothing special about it.

[Luckyd609]

Originally Posted by TXboomerang

This is not propaganda at all. Why don't you tell me what magical nutrients you NEED from grains that can't easily be obtained elsewhere. You don't need peer reviewed science to look at the nutrient content of a food and see that there is nothing special about it.

Why don't you tell us where you got this information. You are the one making the assertion so the burden is on you to produce your sources. Or can you not do that? Didn't think so.

[TXboomerang]

Originally Posted by Luckyd609

Why don't you tell us where you got this information. You are the one making the assertion so the burden is one you to produce your sources. Or can you not do that? Didn't think so.

What is it that you think requires peer reviewed research in my first post?

You simply don't like what I said and think that demanding peer reviewed research is a reasonable way to attack it. What did you find objectionable other than your apparent disdain for things paleo related?

[Luckyd609]

Originally Posted by TXboomerang

You don't "need" any grains at all. You can eliminate them completely from your diet if you want unless your doctor has instructed you not to. Grains are a mediocre food with a high carbohydrate content. There are plenty of other foods that are more nutrient dense without being carb dense.

Because the above is a B.S. statement. If you are going to make such claims you need to back it up with real data. Just you saying that grains are a mediocre food is meaningless. And spreads misinformation.
Whole grains are indeed healthy. And I can provide data to back up my statement.

[hershey48]

I'mconfused too because one minute I hear we should eat grains and the next I hear they are bad.

I have to sy if I didn't eat grains like whole wheat, quinoa, etc I'd never feel satisfied when I eat (even though I eat veggies as well).

[Luckyd609]

Highly refined grains are bad, whole grains are good. Some people are intolerant of gluten but not half as many they claim. Its just a new bandwagon to jump on.
Eat a variety of whole, fresh foods encompassing all the food groups and do not over eat. Keep sugar to a minimum, same with simple carbs and saturated fats. Make sure you get plenty of fiber and good fats.
Thats it, really.

[TXboomerang]

It's only a bs statement to you because you don't like the statement. The nutrient profile of grains does not stand out in any meaningful way from dozens of other healthy foods that a person can choose. If someone wants to cut them out of their diet, they can do it and have a healthy diet quiet easily. If a person doesn't want to cut them out, they don't need to.

You are the one claiming my statement is bs, so the burden is on you to provide evidence why a person can't cut grains out of their diet if they want to and still maintain a healthy nutrient intake. My doctor and the nutritionist I worked with said its fine if I want to drop them completely because they know I eat a lot of leafy greens and fibrous vegetables in my diet.