Harvard's Plate... (vegetables, weight loss, pounds, proteins)

[Sciameriken]

This looks like a better plate than MyPLate.Gov

Healthy Eating Plate vs. USDA's MyPlate - Healthy Eating Plate - The Nutrition Source - Harvard School of Public Health

[tribecavsbrowns]

Just more of the same. We should be terrified of red meat, terrified of dairy, and we should expect to drop 40 pounds the second we switch from French bread to whole-wheat bread. Riiiight.

[Sciameriken]

I have no doubts red meat / Dairy/ and french bread can be incorporated into some diet that promotes weight loss. However, my concern for diets based around such items is longevity and maintaining functional health longer as we age. A lot of what they have on the Harvard plate agrees with my studies on the subject.

[AnonChick]

Originally Posted by tribecavsbrowns

Just more of the same. We should be terrified of red meat, terrified of dairy, and we should expect to drop 40 pounds the second we switch from French bread to whole-wheat bread. Riiiight.

You must be reading a different link than I am. I'm reading the link actually provided by Sciameriken. Nowhere on that link does it suggest that people be terrified of anything, nor that anyone will automatically lose even 1 pound, let alone 40 pounds, by switching from French to whole-wheat.

What it -does- recommend, is that you follow some basic common-sense guidelines if you want to be healthy (not thin, not lose weight - this isn't a diet website, it's a health website). Those guidelines include:

LIMIT (not avoid) red meat.
LIMIT (not avoid) dairy.
Choose whole grains over processed grains, when possible (think: oatmeal with raisins and maple syrup, vs. a bowl of white flour, strawberry pie filling, and saccharine).
LIMIT highly processed foods, and choose whole foods when possible.

And it looks like the proportions are like this:

Grains = 25%
Proteins (including meat in limited portions) = 25%
Vegetables = 35%
Fruits = 15%

For what goes on the plate.

Add small amounts of dairy (including butter), plenty of water, and healthy oils.

I'm not seeing any scare mongering in this suggested eating choice.

[Luckyd609]

Originally Posted by AnonChick

You must be reading a different link than I am. I'm reading the link actually provided by Sciameriken. Nowhere on that link does it suggest that people be terrified of anything, nor that anyone will automatically lose even 1 pound, let alone 40 pounds, by switching from French to whole-wheat.

What it -does- recommend, is that you follow some basic common-sense guidelines if you want to be healthy (not thin, not lose weight - this isn't a diet website, it's a health website). Those guidelines include:

LIMIT (not avoid) red meat.
LIMIT (not avoid) dairy.
Choose whole grains over processed grains, when possible (think: oatmeal with raisins and maple syrup, vs. a bowl of white flour, strawberry pie filling, and saccharine).
LIMIT highly processed foods, and choose whole foods when possible.

And it looks like the proportions are like this:

Grains = 25%
Proteins (including meat in limited portions) = 25%
Vegetables = 35%
Fruits = 15%

For what goes on the plate.

Add small amounts of dairy (including butter), plenty of water, and healthy oils.

I'm not seeing any scare mongering in this suggested eating choice.

Looks like common sense eating to me.

[Ohiogirl81]

Anything that says "avoid bacon" is no good. All kidding aside, even bacon has a place in a balanced diet.

[AnonChick]

Originally Posted by Luckyd609

Looks like common sense eating to me.

It does to me, too.

And I should follow it, but I haven't been, which is something I'm in the process of correcting. I need a -little- more protein, and a bit less grain, and somewhat less dairy.

I'm good on the veggies, if it's green and it isn't mushy or slimey, I'll eat it (so no guacamole, no eggplant, no artichoke, but whole snap peas, lettuce of all sorts, dill weed and other raw chopped herbs right in the salad. Raw or steamed brocolli, asparagus, string beans, yummmmmmm. I even _like_ parsley dipped in a little olive oil and minced garlic). As for grain, I'm not above chewing on the occasional stalk of wild rye grass, so I get a bit of everything in that - grain plus greens!

[AnonChick]

Originally Posted by Ohiogirl81

Anything that says "avoid bacon" is no good. All kidding aside, even bacon has a place in a balanced diet.

Absolutely. You can have 1 slice of bacon every third day.

Or, you could do it like me, save it as a treat once every few months, and eat 10 strips of it in a single setting (4 strips crumbled in your egg with swiss cheese, plus 6 strips on the side). Remember that's once every FEW months - not once a month

[Luckyd609]

Originally Posted by Ohiogirl81

Anything that says "avoid bacon" is no good. All kidding aside, even bacon has a place in a balanced diet.

As long as a persons diet is balanced and healthy bacon is fine once in awhile. I love bacon! Nothing should be off limits. Everything in moderation!

[gypsychic]

Originally Posted by Luckyd609

As long as a persons diet is balanced and healthy bacon is fine once in awhile. I love bacon! Nothing should be off limits. Everything in moderation!

I love my bacon on the weekend! I cook it perfectly in the oven, thick cut, either hardwood smoked or cracked pepper style, and render almost all the fat out. But I eat this on only one day per week. I do love my cheese and butter though, and eat it every day, mostly at breakfast (with my whole grain bread and cup of berries). My dinner is usually a lean protein and large mixed greens salad, with perhaps a small pasta dish once per week.
My downfall is nuts - I love them and eat way too many of them despite my best intentions!

As to the diet plate linked- yes, mostly common sense eating. A couple small things I disagree with but easy enough to tweak.