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Old 03-17-2013, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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I don't judge people for their circumstances, but at some point, personal responsibility is an issue. We shake our heads at drug and alcohol addicts, same thing, these people have a "food addiction". They need treatment. There is a clinic in Ohio for morbidly obese people, to help them, I saw a show on it. One guy lost 300 pounds. He was down to 350. Still a big guy, but at least he could walk. He left the clinic, went home, gained his weight back.

One time in Vegas, I was at a casino, eating at the buffet, and saw these obese people, riding their scooters around the buffet, loading their plates. Come on, if you are so obese you cannot walk....maybe being at a buffet is not a good idea. Just saying.
I agree with this. But I can't judge people or attack their character because they are obviously mentally ill. And I'm not saying you are doing this by the way.
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Old 03-17-2013, 11:56 AM
 
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Agreed. There are problems when we ridicule people who obviously need treatment, therapy, and medical attention. We don't know the circumstances of others. If we see these folks at the gym, let's not stare, and ridicule them.

Challenge:: be nice to someone obese this week. Invite them to the gym.

I did invite an obese woman where I work to join me at the gym. She declined. That is fine. She is still a great person.

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Old 03-17-2013, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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I think this thread can definitely do much better in a Diet and Weight Loss Forum.
Moved.
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Old 03-17-2013, 03:04 PM
 
Location: southern california
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bek of differences in perception for instance u looking at them on eharmony its disgustingly fat but if its them looking at u its pleasantly plump.
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Old 03-17-2013, 03:11 PM
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Location: Florida
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Challenge:: be nice to someone obese this week. Invite them to the gym.
Inviting someone to the gym isn't being nice to an obese person. Offering to work with them personally at the gym, serving as their personal trainer, motivating them, cheering their efforts on - that's being nice.
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Old 03-17-2013, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Some of the people have a sense of entitlement and believe there should be no consequences for their actions. Unfortunately, that doesn't work with overeating and eating the wrong things but since they want that................. Also, the weight comes on slowly and they are not taking responsibility for it so "what can they do". There was a woman in the neighborhood we just moved from that was over 500 lbs and had not been out of the house in two years and died of a heart attack at age 50. I have also seen some that have had the surgery to lose weight only to put it back on and they generally believe that there isn't anything they can do about it.
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Old 03-17-2013, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Australia
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There is so much going on in people's lives that effect them. In this video you are seeing the visual effects of the pain and sadness that the woman goes through.

At one time I gained quite a bit of weight and couldn't understand why I wasn't losing. Eventually I found out that I have a thyroid problem and once that got under control I lost the weight but it took 18 months.

I feel sad for people that are automatically judged because of their bodies, be overweight, disabled, birth deformities, or injuries that leave the body damaged.

I remember being at the State Fair and there was a person walking around that only had a half of nose. Now I don't know if the person was born that way or lost their nose in a accident. People were staring, mouths dropped open, then hearing them make unkind remarks and even laughing about that person's appearance. I felt so sad for that person knowing that they had to deal with other people's judgements every single day.

I've gone off topic I guess but I find the remarks unkind, where has love and kindness gone? We all should be helping our neighbors and strangers instead of showing our hate.
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:09 PM
 
Location: In a house
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I just finished watching part 1 AND part 2 of this video series. Her son wants her to be happy - how's that working for them, hm? Is he not noticing how miserable she is? What is wrong with HIM that he would bring home all of that stuff AND neglect to bring home anything nutritious? If he took out that plate of cookies, and the twinkies, and the M&Ms - and replaced all three with brocolli, vegetable soup with herbs and local vegetables (and no salt), and a whole skinless boneless chicken breast, she would have cut her calories by a few THOUSAND, and still be consuming around the same amount of food. From there, she could at least have a CHANCE at starting to reduce her consumption.

If she needs snacks before she goes to sleep, she can snack on brocolli or raw carrots. Neither will leave crumbs in the bed. She can replace ONE of those cans of soda, with water, and do herself a HUGE favor in the process.

She has -chosen- to live the way she is living, and her son has -chosen- to provide her with the lifestyle. I just hope he can afford the extra-large coffin and the 5 extra pall-bearers they'll need to bury her when she dies.

I feel badly that she's so sad, and I feel empathy for her divorce situation, and I feel empathy for the start of her journey to overeating and obesity. I do -not- feel badly, or empathetic, to the continuation of it to the point where she is now. She didn't gain this weight overnight. And those cookies didn't magically appear on the table. They won't magickally not show up either. Someone has to remove them from the house, and not bring them back in. Perhaps if her son were arrested for domestic abuse, and the state took over her care and feeding, she might have a chance.
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Old 03-17-2013, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Sherman Oaks, CA
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I also watched Part 1 and 2, and it was so depressing. People like this are literally imprisoned by their own weight, and as their world shrinks they increasingly rely on food to provide any pleasure!

Although I'd never laugh at her, I confess that I do have trouble relating to her. I hit my "stop" button when my biggest clothes became too tight. I refused to buy clothing in a larger size; I was no longer able to pretend that it was "just a few pounds". I could see where I was heading, and I reversed course.

I don't understand addictions of any kind, quite honestly. I try not to judge others, but especially in situations like this, I have to just shrug and admit that I don't get it!
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:14 PM
 
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For me, I was skinny up until my 20s. I took a job with bad hours and hours of sitting in front of computer. My diet was crap. In the summer of 2002 I took a health assessment and I was appauled when my weight was what is was. I gave dieting a half hearted try. I finally accepted that I was heavy.

My weight varied by 64 pounds. Last fall I knew I was going to do something about it. The wakeup call came January 2nd when the scale at the doctor's office and the fact that my pants didn't fit. Then and there I resolved to do something about it. I discussed it with my doctor, I discussed my intentions with him and started at it.

three months later, I modified my lifestyle, I changed my diet. Since January I have lost 36 pounds. I feel better and have more energy.

I've been on bariatric calls as a firefighter/EMT, those calls stick with you. I didn't want to get to that point. I feel bad for those who do get to that point. It can be many reasons, depression, apathy, or whatever. Usually the success stories come because of a resolve from within to do something about it.
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