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Old 04-06-2013, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Where is the logic in this statement??
There's no logic in the premise of this thread at all.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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There's no logic in the premise of this thread at all.
Sure there is. It's a reasonable question. Do fat people like fatty stuff more than thin people? [If so, might that explain why they are fat?]

I guess we have to know what "like" means but scientists have ways of measuring things like "like".
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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But could a greater craving for the creamy taste/texture in comparison to other textures be added to the list, or do you think it is independent of weight? It's probably not as much of a factor as caloric intake or exercise, but do you think it is a factor?
No, I don't think it's a factor.
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Where is the logic in this statement??
It's a pertinent counterexample to the (rather dumb) hypothesis in the original post.
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Thank you for the posts.

Just a word of advice to those who are dieting, thin feels better than good tastes. I have noticed that stopping half way through your meal is a great way of controlling portions. Your never as hungry after you stop eating.

But I have another question, Do you think it is the flavor of fatty foods that people crave more or do you think it's the texture? Also, do all humans crave to this flavor/texture equally?
This is bad advice. I grew up with a fat kid's appetite, I used to be able to just eat constantly all day. Self-control wasn't an option. Now, by choosing the right foods at the right times of day, I have a normal appetite. My self-control didn't improve at all, it's just that I finally know the feeling of not being hungry. I was never very fat (because of constant physical activity), but lots of fat people have this problem.

To your new question, no, people do not all crave fat equally. I'm sure Japanese people on average don't crave fat as much as Swedes or Scots, because they have historically eaten a much lower-fat diet. Is this craving associated with obesity, no, of course not. Truly obese people with that "fat-kid appetite" I mentioned will eat ANYTHING if they're hungry. They'll eat Malt-O-Meal out of the box without cooking it. Has nothing to do with fat content.
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:22 PM
 
Location: 53179
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When I am on a diet I dont like creamy foods but when I am not on a diet I love it
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:35 PM
 
Location: 53179
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Another question of similar logic would be,
Do people who speed on the freeway have a death wish?
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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I'd love to hear about any one of the numerous societies where the entire society subsists on very high carbohydrate diets, with absolutely zero percent of the population being overweight.
There are genetic conditions that result in obesity, so you're never going to find "absolutely zero percent", but there are many societies eating high carbohydrate diets were obesity is extremely rare. The most extreme example (in that they have perhaps one of the highest recorded carbohydrate intakes) are traditional Okinawans.

The point is, if carbohydrates really promoted weight gain you'd expect cultures that ate the most carbohydrates to be the most overweight....but you find the opposite. The cultures with the highest carbohydrate (and hence lowest fat) diets have the lowest rates of obesity.
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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To your new question, no, people do not all crave fat equally. I'm sure Japanese people on average don't crave fat as much as Swedes or Scots, because they have historically eaten a much lower-fat diet.
Swedes and Scots, like other Europeans, historically had high carbohydrate diets. It is only recently that the masses in Europe gained access to high fat foods, in fact, in the medieval period the peasantry was largely forbidden to eat most meats though they did consume some dairy (though not so much milk) and eggs...so they were semi-vegetarian. It was believed that the peasants were "rough" so they were intended to eat "coarse" foods like legumes, whole grains, vegetables, etc....where as the monks and aristocrats were "refined" and as a result intended to eat meats and fatty/sugary refined foods.
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:42 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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Swedes and Scots, like other Europeans, historically had high carbohydrate diets. It is only recently that the masses in Europe gained access to high fat foods, in fact, in the medieval period the peasantry was largely forbidden to eat most meats though they did consume some dairy (though not so much milk) and eggs...so they were semi-vegetarian. It was believed that the peasants were "rough" so they were intended to eat "coarse" foods like legumes, whole grains, vegetables, etc....where as the monks and aristocrats were "refined" and as a result intended to eat meats and fatty/sugary refined foods.
Where are you pulling this info from? Please cite your source(s).
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