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Old 06-08-2014, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Prospect, KY
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Most people don't eat dinner at 4:30, or even 6 for that matter. I'd say the window for dinner is more like 6-9pm, with most falling around 8. And they usually don't refrain from taking in any more calories until they go to bed, most will be snacking on something, especially if they eat dinner in the middle of the afternoon, lol. Fasting means zero calories in, even 50 will cut the benefits of fasting off.

Most people do not fast for 16 hours a day. They finish eating sometime around when they go to sleep, sleep for maybe 8 hours then wake up and eat. You are just making crap up now instead of admitting your random hatred towards fasting is unfounded. You have literally nothing left to stand on so now you switch gears and claim everyone fasts every day so it is normal and not special. Gotta love it.
I and almost everyone I know eats dinner around 6 pm and rarely later. I give large dinner parties and 6 pm is the time of choice to eat. We eat breakfast around 7 am, lunch at noon and dinner at 6.....trying to put at least 5 hours between each meal. I prefer to go to bed feeling slightly hungry not full from dinner.
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Old 06-08-2014, 07:23 AM
 
Location: southern california
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its full of acid. when you dont give acid something to chew on it chews on you.
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Old 06-08-2014, 07:32 AM
 
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I and almost everyone I know eats dinner around 6 pm and rarely later. I give large dinner parties and 6 pm is the time of choice to eat. We eat breakfast around 7 am, lunch at noon and dinner at 6.....trying to put at least 5 hours between each meal. I prefer to go to bed feeling slightly hungry not full from dinner.
Yeah I think it's a regional thing. On the east coast restaurants are most full around 8, not 6.
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Old 06-08-2014, 07:43 AM
 
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BTW, I've done a 180 on the matter. After reading the research and doing IF (intermittent fasting) myself resulting in rapid weight loss without muscle loss (10 lbs lost in 2 weeks without losing any upper body strength) and still feeling great and not getting sick, I believe you can skip breakfast or otherwise intermittently fast successfully. It takes discipline (not making up the calories) and eating a diet high in fat and protein to satiate the appetite prior to fasting but it can be done. If you begin fasting with a meal high in starches, I believe it will be difficult to impossible to succeed at IF. Fasting can also unravel your genetic makeup nicely and give your body some nice randomized experiences (similar to how you change up workouts to keep your body guessing and building muscle) instead of being a robot and eating 3 squares because people in white coats told you to do so.
Nice! I agree on the high protein/fat content of meals when fasting, it makes a big difference. So does being consistent with the fast, the first few days are the worst, once the body adapts and learns to not expect food upon waking up, it's smooth sailing.

If you want to really expedite fat loss, particularly in the stubborn areas, you can employ low level steady state cardio at the tail end of the fast. The low insulin state inhibits a2 receptors(which act as brakes for fat loss), and the stubborn areas have as much as 9x more of these a2's then found elsewhere. Food for thought.
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Old 06-08-2014, 10:31 AM
 
Location: In a house
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I and almost everyone I know eats dinner around 6 pm and rarely later. I give large dinner parties and 6 pm is the time of choice to eat. We eat breakfast around 7 am, lunch at noon and dinner at 6.....trying to put at least 5 hours between each meal. I prefer to go to bed feeling slightly hungry not full from dinner.
Pretty much what Cattknap said. Growing up in my old neighborhood, everyone had supper at "suppertime," which was usually within an hour after the major breadwinner came home from his/her full-time dayjob. Our neighborhood was pretty uniform in this - mostly small families with 1-3 children, a married husband and wife, generic white-bread middle-class suburbia. You wouldn't see children playing outside at 5PM, that was when they had to come in and prepare the table for supper. Supper was almost always by 6PM, if not at 6PM. Hubby would come home from work tired and hungry and wanting his supper so he could wind down and enjoy the rest of the day playing ball with his son, or watching the news, or in my dad's case, practicing for the chorus rehearsal scheduled to start AFTER supper. Of course that meant all the people coming from the chorus to our house for rehearsal, also had to be finished eating, because they'd get to our house around 7:30 and THEIR families had to be finished eating, and the kids' homework done, and everyone settled before they could leave their houses to make the drive to our house.

So it seems a uinversal thing, since most of those people didn't live in our neighborhood, and most of them didn't even live in our town.

Of course we grew up with this, and so in our own grown-up lives, it is how we do things as well. You have a bite to eat for breakfast, go to work, have lunch around noon or 1 (which is when most companies schedule lunch breaks), come home from work some time after 5, and start immediately getting supper ready - if someone else hasn't already brought home take-out and it's piping hot waiting for you to dig in.

After supper, you do the dishes, take the dog for a walk, and settle down to enjoy the rest of your evening.

Now maybe some of you didn't have a routine, or maybe your routine wasn't a typical middle-class suburbia routine. But it IS a routine, and it IS common, and it is from this common routine that many of us are posting our thoughts on the matter.
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Old 06-08-2014, 10:32 AM
 
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Yeah I think it's a regional thing. On the east coast restaurants are most full around 8, not 6.
On the east coast, most people don't eat at restaurants every night for dinner. On the east coast, most people eat at home, at suppertime, which is typically around 6PM.
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Old 06-08-2014, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Now maybe some of you didn't have a routine, or maybe your routine wasn't a typical middle-class suburbia routine. But it IS a routine, and it IS common, and it is from this common routine that many of us are posting our thoughts on the matter.
That particular routine might not be the same for everyone, but I don't think it's fair to say that most people eat right up to the time they go to bed. Most people I know who are conscious of their diets aren't grazing after dinner or eating dinner at 10pm. Except for some rare occasions, my kitchen is closed/eating is done for the day by 8pm. Since I eat breakfast around 8am, I've gone a good 12 hours without eating by the morning.

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Old 06-08-2014, 11:56 AM
 
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On the east coast, most people don't eat at restaurants every night for dinner. On the east coast, most people eat at home, at suppertime, which is typically around 6PM.
I grew up on the east coast, its safe to say 6-8 is standard eating time. Every family is a little different obviously.
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Old 06-08-2014, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Thread should be closed at this point. Just sniping, badgering and making broad, sweeping statements that must be true for everyone everywhere always
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Old 06-12-2014, 12:06 PM
 
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Nice! I agree on the high protein/fat content of meals when fasting, it makes a big difference. So does being consistent with the fast, the first few days are the worst, once the body adapts and learns to not expect food upon waking up, it's smooth sailing.

If you want to really expedite fat loss, particularly in the stubborn areas, you can employ low level steady state cardio at the tail end of the fast. The low insulin state inhibits a2 receptors(which act as brakes for fat loss), and the stubborn areas have as much as 9x more of these a2's then found elsewhere.
I like this advice, thanks! My love handles have been almost impossible to grip after about 5 fasts, and all fasts have concluded with a 1.5 mile brisk walk around the work campus prior to lunch. This may explain it better!


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