He was against saturated fat before he changed his mind (veggies, patients)
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What about Dr. Tim Noakes who used to advocate carbs and now advocates fats? Was he paid off in a super secret conspiracy by the meat and egg industry?
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For those who want to continue to consume saturated fat, go ahead.
Heck, I even convinced my doctor who used to be more Mediterranean diet oriented that sat fat isn't bad for you. She saw the before and after numbers and pressed me for how I did it. She was floored when I told her that my weight went down and my lipid profile improved doing exactly the opposite of what frauds like Ancel Keys suggested.
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What do people consider to be a "high-fat" diet? My meals are a combination of whole plant and animal-based foods, which I try to buy organic and locally-sourced whenever I can. My lipids are damn near perfect. No inflammatory markers. No signs of any dietary or lifestyle-based ailments or diseases. No other issues that affect many men of my vintage (early 40's), such as ED, GERD, or sore joints.
My fat intake primarily comes from eggs, meats, nuts, cheese, butter, and coconut oil, which would obviously include a decent amount of saturated fats (probably enough to break people like "userid" into a cold sweat ). As my health to date has been fine, why would I limit or change anything? I eat these foods every single day, never concerned about counting or limiting anything. I just prepare, cook, and enjoy my food.
I wonder what my lipid profile would be like if I swapped out the eggs and meat for crackers, bread, and pasta? What if I drank soda or copious amounts of fruit juices instead of water? What if "heart-healthy whole grains", such as breakfast cereals and bagels, comprised most of my intake, as mandated by AHA and other agencies? I know exactly what would happen. A complete reversal of health (I know this; I've been there before).
Fat is delicious. It is satisfying. And it helps us to extract maximum nutritional benefit from our foods while also providing us with chemical reactions needed for functioning. It is definitely NOT to be avoided when wrapped in a grilled pastured steak, a wild salmon fillet, a handful of almonds, or an egg yolk.
People that have any experience in the medical field will always say fat and especially saturated fat is bad because the past several decades have said so. They won't reverse their beliefs or even examine them until the overwhelming majority does so before them.
Also, reversing heart disease has nothing to do with the normal human adult that is just trying to be healthy; fat is good for people and saturated fats are fine for people and has been pointed out several times by looking the the ache, the inuit, the !Kung and the Kitavans. Saturated fat is not inherently bad, please accept this.
Whenever I see nutritional experts pointing out how bad saturated fat and fats are, I think of the story of the American artillery colonel that couldn't figure out why they could only shoot a shell every 30 seconds to the germans 10 seconds. He found out the artillery men waited 20 seconds after firing. When asked why, they responded, "That's what the manual says!" He dug into it and could find no fathomable reason why they had to wait. Finally, he found the answer in a civil war artillery manual:
"After firing the cannon, wait 20 seconds before firing to allow the horses to steady."
No one asks "why" and just goes along with the flow
The Chinese didn't just start eating rice, on the other hand over the last few decades they have increased their intake of refined sugar and fatty animal foods.
That must explain why the high saturated fat eating Inuit experienced heart disease at phenomenal rates for centuries.
The Inuit had very high rates of stroke and had advanced atherosclerosis but their high intake of omega-3 seemed provide some protection from heart attacks.
Its funny that people promoting high saturated fat diets have to point to poorly studied populations or populations that don't exist anymore to support their position.
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Originally Posted by NorthYorkEd
As my health to date has been fine, why would I limit or change anything?
I've heard the same thing from smokers. You're too young to claim any sort of victory, having advanced heart disease in your early 40's is relatively rare unless you're morbidly obese. The reason why you'd want to change things is due to decades of research.
Around 30% of people that die of heart attacks had normal cholesterol levels so you could have advanced atherosclerosis regardless of your lipid profile.
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Originally Posted by NorthYorkEd
I wonder what my lipid profile would be like if I swapped out the eggs and meat for crackers, bread, and pasta? What if I drank soda or copious amounts of fruit juices instead of water? What if "heart-healthy whole grains", such as breakfast cereals and bagels, comprised most of my intake, as mandated by AHA and other agencies?
Nobody recommends soda and fruit juice over water, nobody recommends that you replace meat with crackers and bread, nobody recommends that most of your calories come from bagels and cereal, etc.....everything you're saying is a strawman. You seem more familiar the bogus claims of diet book authors than what the world's major health organizations actually recommend.
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Fat is delicious. It is satisfying. And it helps us to extract maximum nutritional benefit from our foods while also providing us with chemical reactions needed for functioning.
Fat is delicious? Do you ever eat a stick of butter by itself? I reckon not....I wonder why? Studies on satiety don't show that high fat foods are the most satiating, rather the opposite, lean meats and high carbohydrate starchy whole foods are found to be the most satiating. Eating a bunch of fat doesn't help you extract "maximum nutritional benefit" from your food and, in fact, eating a lot of fat reduces the nutritional quality of your diet because fats, especially isolated ones, have little nutritional value beyond the fat. For example butter, coconut oil are all mostly devoid o nutrients and lean meats are more nutritious than fatty ones. Nuts, seeds and eggs are some of the few fatty foods that are also nutritious.
He's now a big believer in the idea that sugars and refined carbs are the problem, not saturated fats.
Yes, sugar and carbs are the main problem for your body, as these may combines and provide some signal to store fat in your body.
Hence, in saturated fats you don't have to limit healthy fat in your diet. What you have to limit are trans fats and sugars.
Fat is delicious? Do you ever eat a stick of butter by itself? I reckon not....I wonder why?
Do you eat a loaf of bread in one sitting? No? I wonder why? What is your point? There is a difference between eating a "stick of butter" and consuming the fat in a handful of fatty nuts, or the marbling in a fine piece of steak. Fat is delicious and adds flavour. That is why food manufacturers scrambled to replace it when they were trying to reduce the fat content of their processed products.
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Originally Posted by user_id
Eating a bunch of fat doesn't help you extract "maximum nutritional benefit" from your food and, in fact, eating a lot of fat reduces the nutritional quality of your diet because fats, especially isolated ones, have little nutritional value beyond the fat.
Read up on the fat solubility of certain vitamins, such as A, D, E and K. And again, you are arguing against eating a "bunch of fat", as if someone is sitting down with a jar of lard and digging into it with a spoon. No one is suggesting that. Fat is an essential nutrient and is naturally contained in a variety of natural and whole foods (some of which you mentioned -- nuts, seeds, and eggs). The nutrition in those foods is better extracted and has improved bio-availability with the natural fats they contain. That is what we are talking about when we talk about the benefits of dietary fat.
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). As my health to date has been fine, why would I limit or change anything? I eat these foods every single day, never concerned about counting or limiting anything. I just prepare, cook, and enjoy my food.
