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Old 02-08-2015, 07:09 PM
 
Location: The 719
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It's my experience that weight can be lost by eating properly and minimal exercise.

Mix in a salad... like a couple of times a day if possible.

Limiting portions of meat, fruit, healthy fats and carbs while upping the leafy greens and other vegetables works for me.

The thing that is really hard for me is to eliminate the easy to get and addictive fast foods and processed foods.

I also drink a lot of water every day. I've eliminated drinking worthless sodas and treat myself to fruit and dark chocolate rather than candy. I've also eliminated milk. I eat ice cream once in a great while... a few slices of pizza now and again. But it is really hard for me to not get addicted to this stuff.

Stepping on the scale and measuring my bp and pulse are the rewards.

It is hard ass work for some of us, depending on age, genetics, etc.

For judging someone harshly for being disgusted in obesity however, I just don't understand.

Being obese is simply unacceptable behavior. We should all be encouraged to eradicate it.

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Old 02-08-2015, 07:46 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by McGowdog View Post
It's my experience that weight can be lost by eating properly and minimal exercise.

Mix in a salad... like a couple of times a day if possible.

Limiting portions of meat, fruit, healthy fats and carbs while upping the leafy greens and other vegetables works for me.

The thing that is really hard for me is to eliminate the easy to get and addictive fast foods and processed foods.

I also drink a lot of water every day. I've eliminated drinking worthless sodas and treat myself to fruit and dark chocolate rather than candy. I've also eliminated milk. I eat ice cream once in a great while... a few slices of pizza now and again. But it is really hard for me to not get addicted to this stuff.

Stepping on the scale and measuring my bp and pulse are the rewards.

It is hard ass work for some of us, depending on age, genetics, etc.

For judging someone harshly for being disgusted in obesity however, I just don't understand.

Being obese is simply unacceptable behavior. We should all be encouraged to eradicate it.
Exercise is key. So is portion control. Anything else is just lame excuses and against the laws of physics. People claiming they can gain weight from breathing is ridiculous.

People can survive eating anything, it's just that they can't eat as much depending on what they are eating. Well, that is if you are a couch potato. People in my tri club eat up to 10000 calories a day because they are constantly moving. I realize some people can't exercise but nothing is keeping them from dieting. I have more respect for someone who is obese and knows it than someone who is and is trying to justify why they are and blame it on someone else.
 
Old 02-09-2015, 11:39 AM
 
Location: New Yawk
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Side note: I made this for lunch today... oh my goodness, it was delicious! Next time I plan to have some pita bread on hand.
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For an easy warm meal idea, try shakshouka: [URL="http://toriavey.com/toris-kitchen/2010/07/summer-2010-travel-blog-shakshuka/"]Shakshuka - Recipe for Delicious Middle Eastern Egg Dish[/URL] I make a huge pot of the "sauce" and load it up with veggies. Chopped cabbage, broccoli, or brussels sprouts, grated zucchini, extra garlic, tons of pepper - whatever you want. Portion it out in individual freezer bags (I do single serve but you can scale up based on the size of your family) and you can dump the whole frozen portion in a pot, let it thaw and come to boil, crack and egg on it, and boom! Healthy, nutritious dinner. Sometimes I saute some fresh chopped cabbage or kale to put on top.
 
Old 02-09-2015, 11:45 AM
 
Location: New Yawk
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I believe that keep dinner as a light meal is a good habit to get into, because it makes sense for the larger meals to be eaten during the most active hours.
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If someone is regularly getting home from work at 8pm or so then a big dinner really should be out of the question.
8pm should be the cut-off point for eating anything at all.
When I was a working Joe and getting home late my wife would normally have a small cup of light soup and maybe a slice of toast ready -if I ate anything more I'd be awake half the night.
But it sound like you're working through all the possible permutations.
 
Old 02-09-2015, 11:47 AM
 
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This sure is true! I read the label on house brand low fat cream cheese and its full of other stuff including sugar. (not Philadelphia brand though) Why reduce fat and then increase sugar!!
 
Old 02-09-2015, 04:31 PM
 
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this sure is true! I read the label on house brand low fat cream cheese and its full of other stuff including sugar. (not philadelphia brand though) why reduce fat and then increase sugar!!
taste!
 
Old 02-09-2015, 09:42 PM
 
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Yes, refined sugar / processed industrialized foods. You have got it. Sugar is the baddie.

I know from my own miserable experience. As a kid, I ate all that junk. I didn't realize that the sugar was the reason I would feel sleepy at 10AM at school. By chance, I switched my breakfast to plain old oatmeal. I also wondered why I felt better on days I ate nothing versus consuming sugar. More experimenting followed. I know now that if I eat sugar? It awakes a full blown addictive craving. If you have this problem, you will never realize it unless you cut refined sugar out of your diet. All the quirky chemicals in processed foods? Maybe its just me? I feel miserable if I eat that stuff! It gives me nausea and a headache. I stick to real food.

Just look up any lectures on YouTube by Dr. Robert Lustig. He says it all better than me. Here's the link below.

Sugar: The Bitter Truth


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM


I should tell you all about my experience with horses that have metabolic syndrome. Managing horses with metabolic syndrome is the same as it is for humans. You got to put them on a controlled low carbohydrate diet. Sugar is the culprit here. They're highly sensitive to it/don't tolerate it very well. Excess sugar for a horse like this, is MUCH worse than for people. Horses can suffer laminitis from excess acute sugar in the blood, like when a horse overeats high sugar grass or raids grain by accident. <--- That's all more evidence suggesting that if any mammal is sensitive to sugar, restricting/avoiding it makes more sense. Not every warm blooded creature reacts badly to sugar.

For anyone curious you can read about Equine Metabolic Syndrome.

http://www.merckmanuals.com/vet/meta..._syndrome.html


Interesting how symptoms/management is similar to that with humans. Hmmmm......something for you to think about. The parallels, that is.

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Old 02-10-2015, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Connecticut is my adopted home.
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For anyone curious you can read about Equine Metabolic Syndrome.

You and I know that but those that want to fat bash won't read it. Their minds are made up. Fatso is simply eating too much.

Without understanding, I had this play out in my own life. Until I and my doctor/s were able to put it all together and severely restrict all but the highest fiber carbs (greens) and all sugars including fruit I was starving and getting fatter. Now that I'm metabolically stable, I am able to add a few measured higher fiber (non-grain based) carbs now in the morning only when I take my meds but if I lapse and eat simple sugars (even a tiny piece of wedding cake for example) I have to dig deep within to stomp down the cravings for more. I understand addicts, smokers and drunks to a degree in that sugar/starch craving though none of them have to engage in their vice to live. Therein lies the rub: How to eat and live well with that on your doorstep.

My 110 pound sister who is a nationally ranked senior tennis player has all her life blamed me for my fatness until recently when the genetic curve ball finally caught up to her. She said and I quote, "Now I understand how you felt, hungry all the time." Everyone in my family has metabolic syndrome to one degree or another and the answer is the same for each of us. I just had the predisposition on the worst end starting in childhood even though I was more active than most of my peers including my tiny sister. That activity saved me from getting fat until I entered the world of work and had 8-10 hours dedicated to a small room and relative inactivity. I did not understand how I could be getting fatter and fatter on less and less food and I'm not a sedentary person. Not in the least.

Until I did some research on my own (found the glycemic index) and got in to see a renowned diabetes and lipid specialist I had no idea what to do. Once I got things straightened out, 50 pounds essentially fell off on more calories and have stayed off. I'm still fatter than I'd like but I'm not going to dive below 1800 calories on average a day and risk my nutrition and recovery for a dress size. I'm saying this for all the fat/obese people that might be reading that recognize themselves in my story. Get to a good diabetes or metabolic specialist and get your life back in order. You wish you had done so sooner.

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Old 02-10-2015, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Connecticut is my adopted home.
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Oh and let me add to the eat early crowd. I don't eat anything after 4pm. My biggest meal is in late morning/early lunch. I eat a smaller meal in mid-late afternoon and that's it. It's backwards to the ingrained patterns of western society and hard to socialize doing these things but changing meal patterns was also key to getting my metabolic issues in check.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Hell
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So.......why exactly were you in the evil cereal aisle if you don't eat the evil cereal? No reason to be there if you don't use it. Are you that bored at the grocery that you are compelled to stick your nose into everyone else's cart to see how evil their eating habits are?

Tend to your life and let others tend to theirs and quit being so nosy and judgemental.
You're probably one of those 300+ pounders on a motorized scooter, aren't you?? lmao...
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