HCG shots for weight loss (Synthroid, supplement, patient, stomach)

[Giesela]

Lets face - most FDA approved drugs haven't been thoroughly researched/test on humans of all types and sizes in good large control tests over time. All sorts of cautions come to light down the road over time.
You can bet no one really knows all the ins and outs of HCG. Just because its natural doesn't mean anything. He** cholesterol is natural!
That said I have no problem with people who are seriously overweight giving it a shot under a Drs care. The 500 cal is stupid - anyone who can only eat 500 a day doesn't need HCG (not that 500 cal a day is a good thing its not, but it takes a lot of will power).
For years and years the media speculated on who in Hollywood had plastic surgery - and the whole time I'm thinking - plastic surgery can't make you look like that. It can't make you age like that. I think Hollywood Dr's give rich move stars a tailored cocktail of all sorts of stuff to keep them looking good, HCG has been part of that and HCG I think is coming out of that arena.
The problem is we don't all have a gazillion bucks and Dr's catering to us nonHollywood stars. So we aren't going to get the same results or careful attention to side effects of all that non-FDA useage.

[Chickrae]

[quote=Conn Pam;10372129][quote=Chickrae;10371578]

Wow..they are having your friend "binge" eat prior to going on this diet or at least it sounds that way. My goodness..how healthy can that be??

yep...suppose to eat alot of food the first two days. A lot of carbs and whatever else to prepare your body for it. Seems weird to me.

Better than this, I have a son who is overweight as well, he is tall and very big. He is also on WW and using the online plan. The online plan offers all sorts of support for people who choose to go that route. Me? I like the people support aspect and actually enjoy the meetings

That sounds great. I haven't actually looked online at the program. A girl at work does it and just gave me the formula to figure points, so I just write down every single thing I eat and figure the points. It's amazing how less you eat and what better food you choose to eat when you are keeping track. It keeps me from taking bites of this and that when I get home from work. Maybe I will try the meetings. Thats great that you and your son are doing it together

Good luck with your weight loss. Whether it be 10 lbs., 15 lbs., or well over 100 lbs. like me, it all matters doesn't it??

Yes it all matters and thanks I hope I can keep this up. I am going to the gym on a regular basis. They say it takes 21 days to form a habit so hopefully I will make it to 21 days. That was another thing that bugged me about HCG, they say you don't need to exercise. Seems like a magic drug! It can't be that easy or the whole world would be doing this.

[adventuregurl]

Originally Posted by LaoTzuMindFu

Funny how there are so many First Time posters here talking about this. My guess is that they are all ONE PERSON who is creating new accounts to talk about it. Maybe someone should look into seeing if they all have the same IP address.

I know of NO ONE, I mean NO ONE, doctors, nutritionists, personal trainers, etc who say this is a safe and effective way to lose weight. ANYONE can go on a 500 calorie per day diet and lose weight but IT IS NOT HEALTHY TO DO SO. This is one of those totally unhealthy methods that I will always argue against whenever I see someone saying this. It is flat out not safe.

I'm not a first time poster.

It seems you don't know all doctors (I'm also not sure where your research comes from). I go to a very respected doctor in the Phoenix area (a hormone expert) who encourages the HCG diet and has had many successes with it. He tells me that his patients are much healthier afterwards than before they start.

It is not a diet for people who can easily lose weight with exercise and cutting back on caloiries but rather a diet for people with metabloic issues who can't lose in the typical ways. In some cases it is the only way they can lose fat, and losing fat is the only way they can imporve their health.

I personally eat no carbs except greens and non starchy vegetables (no root veggies), no grains at all (which is quite miserable), no sugar, no alcohol, no sweet fruits, no caffeine or decaf (have done so for over a year) and I am not even losing weight. I only drink water and herbal tea. I exercise regularly, in fact when I hike heavily (12-15 hours a week), or run 10ks (I've trained for a few of them as well as many 5ks), I don't even lose weight, and actually even gained some weight that wasn't muscle, due to a metabolic condition that I have. My doctor feels that the HCG diet is the best option for me and others like me. If you don't believe that these conditions exist, check out Syndrome X and PCOS and other conditions related to androgens.

To comment on this diet it's important to understand how it works. Of course it's not safe to eat 500 calories a day unless you are getting calories elsewhere. HCG converts your system from burning glucose for fuel to burning fat for fuel so you are getting nourishment (calories) from your existing body fat in a way you couldn't without it. HCG was discovered in pregnant women and it was to feed and nourish them in case of a famine and has been used in weight loss since the 50's (nature wouldn't do something to pregnant women that is totally unsafe). Doing this for 28 days is totally safe according to my doctor. It reduces insulin resistance (to prevent diabetes), improves thyroid function and has many other good side effects.

My doctor does a full blood panel prior to the program and gives any supplements needed to help with the process. He also meets with you weekly and talks to you by phone in between to make sure you are doing ok and are taking all the supplements you need. My friend has had wonderful success with it and received many measurable health benefits and I plan to do the same.

I recommend others not be scared of by this poster.

PS the first 2 days of 'fat loading' are not just for the sake of pigging out, but rather to allow the body to do the conversion it needs to do from burning glucose to burning fat for fuel, in a more pleasant and comfortable way.

[jhlcomp]

This is not a new diet. This has been around in one form or another since the '70's - yes really. Save your money. Short lived results because you still haven't changed your eating habits and once you are off this program back come the pounds.

[Chickrae]

[quote=adventuregurl;10378054]

To comment on this diet it's important to understand how it works. Of course it's not safe to eat 500 calories a day unless you are getting calories elsewhere. HCG converts your system from burning glucose for fuel to burning fat for fuel so you are getting nourishment (calories) from your existing body fat in a way you couldn't without it. HCG was discovered in pregnant women and it was to feed and nourish them in case of a famine and has been used in weight loss since the 50's (nature wouldn't do something to pregnant women that is totally unsafe). Doing this for 28 days is totally safe according to my doctor. It reduces insulin resistance (to prevent diabetes), improves thyroid function and has many other good side effects

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Thank you for your well thought out post and explanation on this diet. I understand it a little better now. I am sure this HCG is not for me or something that I would even care to do, but maybe it does help other people that have a lot of weight to lose and have been unsuccessful in other ways.

PS the first 2 days of 'fat loading' are not just for the sake of pigging out, but rather to allow the body to do the conversion it needs to do from burning glucose to burning fat for fuel, in a more pleasant and comfortable way.

This part just doesn't make sense to me. If you already have alot of fat on your body, why can't it just work on the fat you already have and what you have been eating normally.


[quote=jhlcomp;10378238]

This is not a new diet. This has been around in one form or another since the '70's - yes really. Save your money. Short lived results because you still haven't changed your eating habits and once you are off this program back come the pounds.

I have been reading more about it on the internet, I see it has been around for many years. I just had never heard of it before a couple weeks ago. I agree you have to change the way you eat, it's a life style change and if you havn't changed, you will revert back to old habits.

[adventuregurl]

[quote=Chickrae;10378580]
This part just doesn't make sense to me. If you already have alot of fat on your body, why can't it just work on the fat you already have and what you have been eating normally.
[quote=jhlcomp;10378238]


Chickrae,
The way my doctor explained it is that it takes a bit of effort for the body to do the conversion from burning glucose for fuel to burning fat for fuel and the first couple of days of eating 500 calories can be a little rough if things don't run smoothly (remember, most people who do this diet have systems that function at less than optimum performance due to insulin resisitance etc.) so if you eat lots of high fat foods during the load days (he doesn't recommend going to Krispy Kreme like some people do, but rather eating good fats like avacado, almonds, fish oil etc.), then your body has some readily available fat to use as fuel when it is undergoing the "perfection" of the conversion.

During the diet you can't eat any fat, or even put any oils on your body (they are absorbed into the bloodstream) as they will be the ones burned, not the body fat you are trying to burn.

Lastly, when you do your last shot, you still eat low cal with no fat for about 2 more days until all ther HCG is out of your system so this kind of counteracts the 2 load days at the beginning.

There is definitely a method to this program, it's not just some willy nilly diet that a doctor concocted for fun. If followed properly, it works.

Once you come off it, you cannot have any starchy or sweet foods for a couple of weeks. If you cheat at this phase, your hypothalamus gland will not be reset (which is the largest health benefit of the diet) and you can easily gain the weight back.

Another benefit of the diet is that once it is over, your appetitie is greatly reduced and your cravings are gone.

[susan42]

Originally Posted by adventuregurl

I'm not a first time poster.

It seems you don't know all doctors (I'm also not sure where your research comes from). I go to a very respected doctor in the Phoenix area (a hormone expert) who encourages the HCG diet and has had many successes with it. He tells me that his patients are much healthier afterwards than before they start.

It is not a diet for people who can easily lose weight with exercise and cutting back on caloiries but rather a diet for people with metabloic issues who can't lose in the typical ways. In some cases it is the only way they can lose fat, and losing fat is the only way they can imporve their health.

I personally eat no carbs except greens and non starchy vegetables (no root veggies), no grains at all (which is quite miserable), no sugar, no alcohol, no sweet fruits, no caffeine or decaf (have done so for over a year) and I am not even losing weight. I only drink water and herbal tea. I exercise regularly, in fact when I hike heavily (12-15 hours a week), or run 10ks (I've trained for a few of them as well as many 5ks), I don't even lose weight, and actually even gained some weight that wasn't muscle, due to a metabolic condition that I have. My doctor feels that the HCG diet is the best option for me and others like me. If you don't believe that these conditions exist, check out Syndrome X and PCOS and other conditions related to androgens.

To comment on this diet it's important to understand how it works. Of course it's not safe to eat 500 calories a day unless you are getting calories elsewhere. HCG converts your system from burning glucose for fuel to burning fat for fuel so you are getting nourishment (calories) from your existing body fat in a way you couldn't without it. HCG was discovered in pregnant women and it was to feed and nourish them in case of a famine and has been used in weight loss since the 50's (nature wouldn't do something to pregnant women that is totally unsafe). Doing this for 28 days is totally safe according to my doctor. It reduces insulin resistance (to prevent diabetes), improves thyroid function and has many other good side effects.


My doctor does a full blood panel prior to the program and gives any supplements needed to help with the process. He also meets with you weekly and talks to you by phone in between to make sure you are doing ok and are taking all the supplements you need. My friend has had wonderful success with it and received many measurable health benefits and I plan to do the same.

I recommend others not be scared of by this poster.

PS the first 2 days of 'fat loading' are not just for the sake of pigging out, but rather to allow the body to do the conversion it needs to do from burning glucose to burning fat for fuel, in a more pleasant and comfortable way.

He can't be that well respected as he is prescribing HCG outside it's FDA approved license.HCG is only licensed for fertility treatment and a few other hormonal problems.IT CAN HAVE SERIOUS SIDE EFFECTS such as blood clots.

[susan42]

Originally Posted by susan42

He can't be that well respected as he is prescribing HCG outside it's FDA approved license.HCG is only licensed for fertility treatment and a few other hormonal problems.IT CAN HAVE SERIOUS SIDE EFFECTS such as blood clots.

If you have PCOS you are increasing your risk.Ovarian cysyts are an absolute contraindication to HCG.
What did your well respected Dr tell you about the potential side effects, what to look out for and how to respond?
What's his name by the way?

[margretdzn]

thanks to the other supporters of HCG---it's nice to know this forum isn't just full of narrow minded souls...........
I hold to the fact that HCG changed my life---got rid of that hard to loose belly fat, got me off BP meds, and showed me a better quality of life.......I was also followed by my MD who fully endorsed it - I have another MD that was prescribing my BP meds and when she saw me 30 lbs. lighter, she said you look fantastic!!! How did you do it..? I told her HCG and she got so foul-mouthed about it, it's going to ruin your life. etc. etc.--- I just smiled and didn't say a word, knowing my other MD endorsed it and followed me all the way.........

I'm 61, and can remember a time when you would tell your MD you wanted to take vitamins and my doctors back then would say---what do you want to take vitamins for, you don't need extra vitamins, they will hurt you, too much will hurt you, you'll put yourself out of balance.........!!
bah-humbug.....
It's one thing to have a different opinion about something, but to go around bad-mouthing something you really don't know all the facts on---that's just plain narrow minded......like those people who ban books without having even read them, just on someone elses recommendation.....
HCG in the VERY SMALL DOSE that it is taken for weight loss CAN help people.....
Read Dr. Simeons free book and make an "informed" decision before you think negative about it...........

[nanannie]

margrtdzn,You mention "narrow minded" a few times. I read posters with different opinions. Thats a forum. If anyone is "narrow minded" its posters who insist this drug is nirvana ignoring the potential risks and side effects. If it worked so well for all, it would be proclaimed with all the media hoopla as the second coming, and the answered prayer of the overweight millions in the world. I see here well read, intelligent people offering another side to this miracle cure. That is hardly narrow minded, but taking time to offer another point.