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Old 06-15-2010, 12:32 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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pit bulls have hearing problems and are near sighted and it seems to be in their gene pool; therefore, they'll react first and look later. Crossing them may or may not work.
One pit I know went absolutely ballistic as another dog came down the city sidewalk, only to FINALLY see that it was his dog pal. that "attitude" is the last thing I need particularly if there are children around. And we're in a busy downtown, where there are lots of variables coming at us.

I've rescued a few pits in my moving company days but their natural paranoia is like trusting a union business agent with your money: you can never stop watching them.

Cross bred or not, they were bred for a purpose: If you don't manage them, they'll manage you.
really?? that's a new one for me!!

and the 2nd quote applies to just about any dog walking the face of the earth......
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Old 06-15-2010, 12:34 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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and the 2nd quote applies to just about any dog walking the face of the earth......
That's what I was thinking.
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Old 06-15-2010, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Phelan
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pit bulls have hearing problems and are near sighted and it seems to be in their gene pool; therefore, they'll react first and look later. Crossing them may or may not work.
One pit I know went absolutely ballistic as another dog came down the city sidewalk, only to FINALLY see that it was his dog pal. that "attitude" is the last thing I need particularly if there are children around. And we're in a busy downtown, where there are lots of variables coming at us.

I've rescued a few pits in my moving company days but their natural paranoia is like trusting a union business agent with your money: you can never stop watching them.

Cross bred or not, they were bred for a purpose: If you don't manage them, they'll manage you.
I would have to disagree with your blanket statement. Perhaps there are some that are deaf or have eye issues - but that again is due to bad breeding. To get a blue or a white dog they kept inbreeding or line breeding the dogs til the color was achieved. Merle dogs (many hounds have Merle coloring) can throw deafness and blindness. Great Danes if all white are very very likely to be blind or deaf. Its not just this breed of dog.

I've worked with rescues in Los Angeles that rehab scores of dogs - primarily bull breeds and mixes of - and to say they're paranoid is very wrong. They are very happy people trusting dogs - in general. If a dog is Dog Aggressive, and yes that is in the gene pool, that must be managed. But they're not paranoid unless some person has beat them, starved them, forced them to fight or be a bait dog, which happens a lot to these dogs.

Most folks who adopt a bull breed know that there may be DA issues when they sign up. And due to this a lot of those people know they must be firm but fair with their dogs.

These dogs need an outlet for all that energy, all those muscles need to be worked - even the one in their skull. If you leave these dogs locked up, with no socialization, no training, no love - they will become what we fear most in them. But then so will a GSD, a Rottie, a Boxer etc etc.
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Old 06-15-2010, 12:55 PM
 
Location: California
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pit bulls have hearing problems and are near sighted and it seems to be in their gene pool; therefore, they'll react first and look later. Crossing them may or may not work.
One pit I know went absolutely ballistic as another dog came down the city sidewalk, only to FINALLY see that it was his dog pal. that "attitude" is the last thing I need particularly if there are children around. And we're in a busy downtown, where there are lots of variables coming at us.

I've rescued a few pits in my moving company days but their natural paranoia is like trusting a union business agent with your money: you can never stop watching them.

Cross bred or not, they were bred for a purpose: If you don't manage them, they'll manage you.
Mind posting a reputable link to all your info?
And since "PitBull" is not a breed...just what Pitbulls are you talking about?
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Old 06-15-2010, 12:59 PM
 
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It has been my experience that the vast majority of people could not identify a pit bull if it bit them.

To prove my point, the following web site has 25 photographs of different breeds of dogs, only one of them is an American Pit bull Terrier. On your honor, who can identify the pit bull on their first try? (I couldn't)

Pet Pitbull - Find the Pit Bull

At the very least, I hope this thread makes people think twice before blurting out emphatically that "it is a pit bull," when in reality that may not be the case.
I got the APBT on the first try. But then I used to raise them...is that cheating?

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Old 06-15-2010, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I got the APBT on the first try. But then I used to raise them...is that cheating?

Nope, that is not cheating. With all the dog lovers who frequent this forum, I figured a few should be able to identify the American Pit Bull Terrier right off.
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Old 06-15-2010, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Montreal -> CT -> MA -> Montreal -> Ottawa
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Funny. I remember when this was first posted here, a long time ago, when I was new to the dog forum and new to dog "ownership" (Artie owns me, not the other way around). It took me A LOT (maybe upwards of 10 or 12) of tries to get to the pit bull. This time it only took two clicks.

I also learned, in these past few years, that I've never met a mean pit bull. They've all been total loves, despite their bad rep.
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Old 06-15-2010, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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i remember seeing this before and it took me 3-4 tries before i got the right dog......

and fwiw .... when bailey was a pup, i had several people tell me that they thought she had some pit bull in her....... she's pretty muscular through her chest and shoulders, so i guess that's where THAT came from .....
A lot of people, including other APBT owners, have misidentified my Buddy as a pit bull. He has a big blocky head, brown short-haired, white-chested, and very muscular. He looks more like a pit bull on steroids than a pit bull because he weighs in at 130 pounds and stands about 24" tall at the shoulder.

He is a Boerboel (African Mastiff), part English Mastiff, part Bull Mastiff, and in Buddy's case also part Golden Lab. Buddy's nose is not as darkly colored as most Boerboels, and it is not a very common breed, so I can understand people's confusion.


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Old 06-15-2010, 02:14 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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what a handsome boy he is..... and HUGE.....

now, tell me where you see pittie in bailey.......





at about 9-10 months old:


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Old 06-15-2010, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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what a handsome boy he is..... and HUGE.....

now, tell me where you see pittie in bailey.......
Nope, I don't see the pit bull in Bailey. Maybe some Jack Russell Terrier, Border Collie, or some Springer Spaniel, but I would not identify Bailey as a pit bull. He looks like a bundle of energy. You must have your hands full with him.
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