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Old 12-28-2010, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Looks innocent and sweet...but has a really menacing growl.
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Old 12-28-2010, 10:07 AM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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Do not get a huge dog for your mother. We used to have a sheep dog and my 6' 2" husband was walking him one day and he knocked against the back part of my husband's knees and knocked him down. This dog was so huge that our vet made the comment one day that he was glad he was a friendly dog, because he could have done some damage. I used to buy whole chickens to roast and the neck of the chicken was stored inside. I would take this neck out and throw it to the sheep dog and he took it in mid air and swallowed it whole.

Poodle comes to mind. All you need is the bark to alert your mother and the intruder. Then put a huge dogloo out back to make them think the dog is big. Put the opening to the dogloo in a direction so they cannot see the dog is not inside.
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Old 12-28-2010, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Montreal -> CT -> MA -> Montreal -> Ottawa
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But low-to-the-ground dogs aren't good for old people's hips.
You'd better not be calling me old!

Truth be told, though, every time I stand up, my hips "lock" for a few minutes -- makes it tough getting those winter boots on... and wiping Artie's feetsies, too, when we come back in.
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Old 12-28-2010, 10:23 AM
 
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While I understand your feelings, having a dog that would "chew the crap" out of someone...anyone...is a huge responsibility and potential liability. Unless the dog and your mother are properly trained in how to react appropriately, I would go with a well behaved dog who will make lots of noise.

Amen to that.

Your Mom may not be adept at the assumed complexities of an alarm system, but a living breathing dog is not less complex.
As others have pointed out, any dog is a deterent, so long as it barks.

I do hope this never happens to her again. Scary.
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:38 AM
 
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If your mother wants a dog and will love it I'd suggest sticking with a smaller yappy breed. Perhaps adopting a female (territorial) middle age or senior JRT mix. Something that can be both a lap dog and a "warning" alarm for your mother.

For self defense your mother would be better off with a shotgun than a dog that may or may not "chew" and intruder to death, IMO.

Maybe it is time to consider helping your mother move to a safer location?
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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I would suggest a medium sized mixed breed for your mother that you obtain through adoption. Your mother should like the like the looks of the dog. I like dogs that are at least one-half herding dog since they tend not to "slip" away like some other breeds and also tend to be more "clean" in the house and obedient. If you work with a humane society or breed rescue, this would allow for a better match between your mother and the dog. Petfinder is a great place to look at photos and let your mother see what looks good to her along with a short description. I am hoping that your mother likes dogs in the first place because "success" will definitely depend on that as the dog needs to bond to your mother to be a good companion/protector.
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Old 12-28-2010, 01:40 PM
 
Location: North Western NJ
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This is completely backwards. Many insurance companies and municipalities require a "beware of dog" sign on the front door and any gates. A generic "beware of dog" just lets people know you have a dog on the premises and to be warned. Having signs like "beware, attack dog on duty" or "aggressive rottweilers" and other of these signs that people think are clever, could get you sued as you're admitting the dog is aggressive.
i agree, its idiotic, i agree its backwards (youd think warning someone theres a dog on the property (its the use of the word "beware" thats the problem aparently) would be a GOOD thing and protect you...

but our neighbors found out the hard way the last light snow we had.
we have a large hill behind our houses thats part of an industrial estate, kids cut through our yards to get to this hill as the estate is gated so its easier to climb our fences than it is to climb the industrial barbed wire topped gate at the front of the porperty.

they used to cut through our yard but we put in a taller fence and put a compost pile infront of their usual cut through path...LOL...
so they decided to use my neighbors yard. my neighbor has a deaf mastif mix, hes not usually agressive but being deaf he does startle easily.
he has free acess to the house and entire yard via a large dog door and they put a beware of dog sign on their gate for obvious reasons, the dog has 24/7 acess to the yard and house and they thought people would use more caution with the gate if it had a sign.

a group of kids cut through, startled duke and he came running towards them, kid kicked dog dog nipped kid...
kid runs home screaming, 2 days later the cops are at the door, duke has been inpounded pending court case, as the kids parents are pressing charges. the case states that the owners knew their dog was agressive as made aware by the 'beware of the dog" sign and because they 'knew" he was "agressive" and didnt take precautions to prevent a bite (im not sure what a 5ft fence, gates and signage is counted as but aparently its not taking proper precautions) they are liable for all medical charges.

the kids family also want duke put to sleep because hes 'agressive" (he has NO bite history)

my neighbors laywers are fighting hard for dukes life, but unfortunatly agree that the sign indicates they "knew" he was "agressive" and that despite the fact the kid was on their property it offers them no protection because they didnt have any no tresspassing signage.

their insuracne has dropped them on claims that they knew they had an agressive dog but didnt disclose it to them (again based on a single beware of the dog sign)

unfortunatly this was a few weeks ago and we got word yesterday that duke passed away at the impound kennel. necropsy was done to prove negative for rabies and the vet deemed cause of death to be stress induced as the kennel staff admit he stopped eating wouldnt sit or lay down and cried 24/7.

the entire situation is RIDICULOUS and STUPID...this dog was defending his home and more importantly himself from naughty idiotic "kids" (their mid-late teens) but because of a stupid beware of the dog sign he found himself locked in a kennel in a strange place, his people, who are good people, find themselves with legal costs (and likely medical bills, the kid is now aparently suffering post traumatic stress and the kids family dont have mental health coverage...hello nice big psych bill), and without their best buddy.

im glad its obviously different where you are...but im in CT and this isnt the first instance of situations like this. lots of laywers are warning people agaisnt beware of the dog signs, they are essentialy admitting liability, instead they suggest generic 'loos dog" and "no tresspassing" signage. as the no tresspassing signage provides further protection if something happens to idiots wandering throguh your yard.

and i know it is the same in the uk, as someone else pointed out.

the word "beware" aparently says "dangerous" where as 'dogs loose" doesnt.
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Old 12-28-2010, 03:43 PM
 
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You know foxywench, I wanted to call you out as a troll for posting such an insane story. But sadly I believe it. Thanks for the warning about the Beware of Dog signs. I thought about getting one as a joke.

To the topic, OP don't get you mother a Old English Bulldog. Most people oh and ah when they see her. But the other day when she got out of my yard, grown men froze at the sight of her running at them, to be petted of course. She does look a little scary when she has her mouth open panting. But when someone comes to the house she right away runs to the door but she doesn't bark. And she has such a loud bark... I may end up getting a Bullmastif myself.

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Old 12-28-2010, 03:47 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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i agree, its idiotic, i agree its backwards (youd think warning someone theres a dog on the property (its the use of the word "beware" thats the problem aparently) would be a GOOD thing and protect you...

but our neighbors found out the hard way the last light snow we had.
we have a large hill behind our houses thats part of an industrial estate, kids cut through our yards to get to this hill as the estate is gated so its easier to climb our fences than it is to climb the industrial barbed wire topped gate at the front of the porperty.

they used to cut through our yard but we put in a taller fence and put a compost pile infront of their usual cut through path...LOL...
so they decided to use my neighbors yard. my neighbor has a deaf mastif mix, hes not usually agressive but being deaf he does startle easily.
he has free acess to the house and entire yard via a large dog door and they put a beware of dog sign on their gate for obvious reasons, the dog has 24/7 acess to the yard and house and they thought people would use more caution with the gate if it had a sign.

a group of kids cut through, startled duke and he came running towards them, kid kicked dog dog nipped kid...
kid runs home screaming, 2 days later the cops are at the door, duke has been inpounded pending court case, as the kids parents are pressing charges. the case states that the owners knew their dog was agressive as made aware by the 'beware of the dog" sign and because they 'knew" he was "agressive" and didnt take precautions to prevent a bite (im not sure what a 5ft fence, gates and signage is counted as but aparently its not taking proper precautions) they are liable for all medical charges.

the kids family also want duke put to sleep because hes 'agressive" (he has NO bite history)

my neighbors laywers are fighting hard for dukes life, but unfortunatly agree that the sign indicates they "knew" he was "agressive" and that despite the fact the kid was on their property it offers them no protection because they didnt have any no tresspassing signage.

their insuracne has dropped them on claims that they knew they had an agressive dog but didnt disclose it to them (again based on a single beware of the dog sign)

unfortunatly this was a few weeks ago and we got word yesterday that duke passed away at the impound kennel. necropsy was done to prove negative for rabies and the vet deemed cause of death to be stress induced as the kennel staff admit he stopped eating wouldnt sit or lay down and cried 24/7.

the entire situation is RIDICULOUS and STUPID...this dog was defending his home and more importantly himself from naughty idiotic "kids" (their mid-late teens) but because of a stupid beware of the dog sign he found himself locked in a kennel in a strange place, his people, who are good people, find themselves with legal costs (and likely medical bills, the kid is now aparently suffering post traumatic stress and the kids family dont have mental health coverage...hello nice big psych bill), and without their best buddy.

im glad its obviously different where you are...but im in CT and this isnt the first instance of situations like this. lots of laywers are warning people agaisnt beware of the dog signs, they are essentialy admitting liability, instead they suggest generic 'loos dog" and "no tresspassing" signage. as the no tresspassing signage provides further protection if something happens to idiots wandering throguh your yard.

and i know it is the same in the uk, as someone else pointed out.

the word "beware" aparently says "dangerous" where as 'dogs loose" doesnt.
That is so sad about duke . They should have reported their was a problem and asked his family to come ignorant azzes . Oh well another dog to face the consequences of an inconsiderate parent who did not teach their kid better .
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Old 12-28-2010, 04:05 PM
 
Location: North Western NJ
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its unfortunatly rather common around here...alot of people with more money than sense who think they deserve to be spoilt rotten because they pay high taxes being in fairfeild county.

the adults are often worse than the kids but, and i dont know if this is a neighborhood thing, the kids have no sense of respect or boudries...
youd think a fence with a latched gate would be enough to say "i dont want you walking through my property" but they dont care.

they kids got escorted off the industrial estate today for sledding...the parents responce was that they pay taxes in this town, their kids can sled wherever they like...
they got a warning, a few hours later i got word that they are using the cemetary as their sledding ground "untill the cops forget about it" and knocked over 2 of the smaller stones.

*but im ranting*

theres only one thing i hate worse than inconsiderate dog owners letting their dogs run free...
and thats idiotic inconsiderorate parents letting their kids run free...

Duke was such a mushy dog once he knew you were there, you just simply cant "sneak up" on a deaf dog without him spooking...
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