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Unread 08-12-2007, 08:34 AM
 
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Looking forward to hearing how he does with the sheep, that should be very interesting!
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Unread 08-12-2007, 01:55 PM
 
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Sharon, how do you plan to "retrain" your dog for traditional obedience after you're done with Rally?

We've just had our first novice rally trial, and I'm thinking maybe I should quit rally and switch to obedience, then go back to rally. Like Katie said, rally is pretty lax, and I'm concerned that my dog will get into lazy habits - like sloppy sits, for example. Rally doesn't take off points for that, but obedience certainly will!! Your Boone probably is so well trained that he's got perfect sits and execution of othe exercies, so maybe it won't be a problem for you after Rally-O.

We're having a lot of fun in Rally, though. And, Katie, I agree that matches are less expensive, but you can't earn any titles at matches. Getting those titles are like steps on a ladder and a good way to see your progress and have a sense of accomplishment. You can get Rally titles in AKC, UKC, and APDT, for what it's worth.

I think it's great that mixed breeds can now compete as well. People who own dogs should be able to work with them and have fun in competition!
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Unread 08-12-2007, 04:30 PM
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Running West---Please get Tuckers eyes checked! This can not be done by a vet you need to find an eye clinic or doggie eye doctor...let me know the results. But please have him checked.
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Unread 08-12-2007, 04:34 PM
 
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I certainly agree that it's great that all dogs can compete in something. You just form such a bond with your dog when working towards a goal. I think all dogs should go through some sort of training, just to make them better citizens.

Southward, I'm hoping we don't have to retrain much. I am also thinking of skipping Rally Excellent and just jumping over to competition obedience. I think Rally is excellent for the owner who is new to competition as it is more relaxed. I do try to get straight sits and fronts out of Boone now, and he's usually good. However during training I am using both a hand signal and a verbal, and I'll have to work on just doing one or the other, which should hopefully be an easy transition. There is nothing to say that your dog has to be less precise in Rally. They do encourage you to communicate with your dog, but if I want to phase out talking to him and they count off for that, so be it.

I know that a lot of people these days train their dog to watch them constantly, which really looks flashy in the ring. Boone will watch me, but his face is not turned up toward me as we're moving, though he is watching my knee or whatever and paying attention to where I am. That "pretzel" position can really mess up their gait in conformation, and I'd just as soon my dog kinda watch where he's going

You can go to YouTube and watch some performances. I found that by doing a search to either rally obedience, or just obedience, you come up with a whole lot of entertainment!
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Unread 08-12-2007, 04:40 PM
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southward bound...you might not get offical titles at matches but you can go from pre-novice [which is what you are doing in rally] to novice [on & off lead] then open, then utility. I have seen people train all the way thru then go for the offical titles. Then work on OTCH [obedience trail champion]
I went to matches with Stevie until we were getting 200 score 3 in a row then I kept going until we showed. Due to nerves on my part we got around 190. Did you know that UKC has the recall over the jump & honor dogs for their CD?

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Unread 08-12-2007, 04:49 PM
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Sharon is right but she also has a big dog. You can do a lot of dammage to a small dog if you are not careful. Try to find the book & videos [if you can afford them] COMPETITIVE OBRDIENCE TRAINING FOR THE SMALL DOG by Barbara Cecil & Gerianne Darnell. This is a must for people with small dogs.
This could also help you out Running West! [Provided Tucker does not have eye problems]
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Unread 08-13-2007, 04:28 AM
 
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southward bound...you might not get offical titles at matches but you can go from pre-novice [which is what you are doing in rally] to novice [on & off lead] then open, then utility. I have seen people train all the way thru then go for the offical titles. Then work on OTCH [obedience trail champion]
I went to matches with Stevie until we were getting 200 score 3 in a row then I kept going until we showed. Due to nerves on my part we got around 190. Did you know that UKC has the recall over the jump & honor dogs for their CD?
Nope, didn't know that, Katie. Tried to give you rep points for that, but the powers behind the scenes wouldn't let me!

We did some agility, so he's good with jumps. We should be OK with that. He had an injury and can't do agility any more, but a jump now and then won't hurt him. He loves jumps. It's the A frame that really bothered him.
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Unread 08-13-2007, 11:49 AM
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South for UKC CD the dog does a stright recall like AKC except there is a solid jump between the 2 of you & a person standing on either side. The jump is set every 2 inches to the height of the dog withers. example..Jetta was 13 1/2 inches during practice & training I set her jump at 14 inches but in the ring it was set at 12 inches. Katie will be set at 8 inches [12 inch corgi] in the ring but home at 10 inches. If the dog touches the jump it counts points off, so train high show at the lowest allowed!!

What kind of injury did he have??
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Unread 08-15-2007, 05:06 AM
 
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South for UKC CD the dog does a stright recall like AKC except there is a solid jump between the 2 of you & a person standing on either side. The jump is set every 2 inches to the height of the dog withers. example..Jetta was 13 1/2 inches during practice & training I set her jump at 14 inches but in the ring it was set at 12 inches. Katie will be set at 8 inches [12 inch corgi] in the ring but home at 10 inches. If the dog touches the jump it counts points off, so train high show at the lowest allowed!!

What kind of injury did he have??
He fell off the dog walk in agility, and his shoulder has been sore off and on ever since. He's a little stiff when he gets up from sleeping. We took him to an excellent chiropractor, and everything checked out OK.

He loves to jump, and I don't think it would hurt him to do that occasionally. He does it on his own anyway. I know he'd have to jump in advanced obedience, if we go that far.
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Unread 08-15-2007, 07:33 AM
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Ouch! poor pup! Get the book It goes into things that little dogs should & should not do. Things that big dogs can do that would hurt little dogs. & things little dogs can do that big dogs can not! But esp since he has all ready been hurt...please get the book. It will help you even if you do Rally.

Dogwise.com has the book for $19.95!

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