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Old 05-09-2011, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Haven't been on for awhile so am just reading this now. I had Jazz for 14.5yrs she was a cattle dog x border collie and yes I live in a condo so was told it would not work out.When I adopted her I felt an owners time is much more important than a big yard so talked the rescue group into letting me have her. I still feel that way.

I have no regrets as she was the best dog I have ever owned. She was my once in a life time dog as there was such a bond with her. Did she miss not living on a ranch? I doubt it if you look in my photo albums you can see just how happy she looks as she had a great life. We had plenty of off leash exercise and adventures and she did agility and had her buddy Dash ( my Border colliesX springer mix). She like LTTP's Bailey saw EVERYTHING..nothing got past her and yes she alerted me when she thought I should know about something . She barked alot when she played and people would tease her with a toy but in reality she was not a big barker. My neighbors claimed they never heard her or Dash.

As much as I loved her she was never an easy dog so I put a ton of time into her and found metal stimulation to be just as important as physical exercise.On walks I always did obedience drills so she and Dash had to pay attention and do sits and downs etc as we walked. Jazz worked for everything, a toss of her ball meant a trick first, I think we both had alot of fun.

I read a discription about the personality of Cattle dogs in a dog magazine and it was Jazz to a Tee. She was bossy, stubborn and everything belonged to her..picture the seagulls in Little Nemo screaming "MINE MINE MINE" that was Jazz. While she shared fine with people not so with other dogs and the day we adopted Dash she did fine until we got home then she raced inside gathered all her toys and stood over them threatening him...oh yea he got the message and because he was a passive boy they did fine together. She has issues with strange dogs especially females but once she got to know them she was fine AS LONG as they played HER games by HER rules! She was 100% the Queen.
I workd hard to make sure she did have an inhibited bite and so when she did have issues with another dog I knew she would not hurt the dog . She had a few bites on her but never left a mark on another dog or a human which amazed people as she and I played very rough. People would see us and be worried that she was hurting me but she had perfect control of her bite.Made me trust her with kids too as she loved my 3 nephews but would drag the youngest one around by grabbing him or his clothing and he would screech and she get even rougher with him but once again she never left a mark on him and she would protect him big time. I know she felt she raised that boy!


Funny thing is as tuff as she was she was a drama queen and a very soft dog. Just with the tone of my voice I could make her crumble, one stern " BAD DOG" from me and she would be sucking up to me trying to get back in my good graces. While she loved people and loved meeting them she was 100% mine, I was her person and thus she and I had a bond so strong it was very difficult for her when I was not around. She would go over fences to be with me. I have a couple friends that have Cattle dogs and theirs went through closed windows to find them when left at home.One girl had to bring hers to work and he sat in her truck all night and was fine( working nights so it was cool out made that possible) but if she left him home he would break a window and escape.

I currenlty have,Dazzle a Silken windhound (sighthound) which is a very easy breed and I can not tell you how much I miss my crazy Jazz. I love Dazzle but he is sooo different. I miss that head strong active girl that argued with me about such things as missing an agility weave pole or a million other things ( Jazz did have an opinion on everything, loved to argue and get the last word in!) I do have Phoenix and she too is a herder but older and deaf and now only has one eye she can see out of so is more like Daz then Jazz.

That puppy is very cute and if you do have time for the breed should make a great dog but I think you have to be willing to put in the time working with her not just being there. Good luck... can't wait to hear how the fostering goes.
Same with my GSD. We live in an apartment, although she started off on farms as a puppy. But I see no difference in her happiness level. It is a common myth that herding breeds and/or large dogs absolutely positively need large spaces; they do just fine as long as they remain active and feel loved, which is the most important quality in a caregiver. I wish that more rescues would understand that a caregiver does not need a fenced yard to make a dog happy, and that it really shouldn't be a requirement of adoption.

And my GSD is just like Jazz was: MINE, MINE, MINE. She is not aggressive except with other dogs when a t-o-y is involved; she doesn't like to share but has learned to do so (I'm so proud of her!), although she still gets jealous when I play with the cat (:
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:17 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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Same with my GSD. We live in an apartment, although she started off on farms as a puppy. But I see no difference in her happiness level. It is a common myth that herding breeds and/or large dogs absolutely positively need large spaces; they do just fine as long as they remain active and feel loved, which is the most important quality in a caregiver. I wish that more rescues would understand that a caregiver does not need a fenced yard to make a dog happy, and that it really shouldn't be a requirement of adoption.

And my GSD is just like Jazz was: MINE, MINE, MINE. She is not aggressive except with other dogs when a t-o-y is involved; she doesn't like to share but has learned to do so (I'm so proud of her!), although she still gets jealous when I play with the cat (:

which is EXACTLY what I look for in a home visit.....

and add bailey to the MINE-MINE-MINE group.....
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Newark, Ca
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I have an ACD who's going to be nine years old this year. You'd swear he was only two! He's still a ball of energy.

I had never had a dog before I got him and was pretty much thrown into the fire right away. He came from a friend of mine who's parents had an ACD that had puppies. I got him for free and had no idea what I was getting myself into. My friend's parents gave me the pup along with a Cattle Dog book when he was about two months old.

I'll try not to write a novel, but just know what you're getting yourself into. ACDs are not low-maintenance dogs! Do your research on the breed and determine whether or not you have the time and energy to invest into this breed.

Below are some of the traits and quirks that my furball has...and these are pretty much typical of the breed:

-obsessively protective of my wife and I and our home...almost to a fault. The house we've lived in for two years doesn't have a doorbell like my last place did. He still barks when he hears a doorbell on TV.

-very cautious and wary of people that come over to the house...even friends/family he's met many times. Cattle Dogs aren't like labs and don't want to be everybody's friend. He usually avoids company and won't let people pet him.

-hates other dogs. I gave up on dog parks years ago. His only dog friend is my brother's 10 year old pug who he grew up with.

-obsesses over anything that moves in the backyard and gets fixated on toys (especially with squeakers) and it's virtually impossible to get his mind off it. His current obsession is a rubber ducky we bought for our baby who's on the way. He'll stand outside the door to the baby's room and whimper and whimper and whimper and whimper, knowing that the ducky is in there.

-hates the vet...hates! He even has the nickname "Wild Thing" on his vet file. One of the vet's assistants basically told me one time in a manner of speaking that it was my fault that he acts like this. It was actually funny watching her try to school me and get him under control and was totally unsuccessful at it.

-horrible riding in the car...horrible! He shreaks at the top of his lungs and only stops when we're on the freeway. On city streets he starts yelping and shreaking again...really obnoxious and weird. My pregnant wife refuses to ride in the car with him right now.

-not a cuddler...occasionally, first thing in the morning or right before bedtime, he'll let you have some cuddle time. When my wife first met him, she was always offended that he wouldn't cuddle with her.

Despite all these things, I love my dog to death and surprisingly, he is manageable. Even with all these quirks, he's still eager to please and is not intentionally trying to be bad. He's never been destructive toward anything in my house and as high-strung as he is has never been aggressive toward any friend or family member. He is very loyal and protective of my wife and I. He follows us around the house constantly and always wants to be right by our sides.

Good luck with your decision. Just be prepared for what you may be getting yourself into. I now feel like I could handle just about any breed of dog after dealing with an ACD. I'd get another one, but I don't think my wife would.
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Santa Barbara CA
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I have to laugh at the above post by Mstnghu2 as Jazz hated the vets too. She learned how to intimidate them and it worked they tended to be terrfifed of her. Her nick name was Hannibal Lector for snapping in the one vets face, but both that vet and I know if Jazz had really wanted to bite her she would have. None of the vets ever got bitten despite some big threats. There were actually a couple vets that work at the clinic that figured her out and did great with her. Other people she was great with but vets she did not want touching her.At the end when we saw the eye specialist they had been warned about how difficut Jazz could be and how I had to be in the room to make her behave yet she was sweet as pie to this eye specialist! I think that was her last jab at the regular vet make them all look like liars! She did not have cows to control with " the eye" but she did have vets and "the eye" worked on them just as well if not better.
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Old 05-10-2011, 11:29 AM
 
Location: AZ
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I am considering adopting this gorgeous rescue gal and have been reading up on the breed. I was wondering if any one here has had any experiece with this breed and some of their quirks, needs and temperment. Also, are they big barkers when it comes to squirrels and other critters in the yard and how big do they get? I would be getting her primarily as a companion dog for my other who does better with a playmate - so does this breed interact well, playfully with other dogs or are they aloof. She is 7 months old and we are going for a meet and greet on Saturday. Whatever input you have would be appreciated.



Cute dog. I have red heeler that shows in excellent in agility with AKC. This is my second heeler, and I'll have had a third in two months. None of the heelers have ever barked. In order to work cattle, they must be quiet. Now they will nip at your heels, something you can correct easily.

I have heard they'll herd kids, but my girls never did that to my son. The one I have now, is great, and yes she will not leave me when in the house. It's kind of funny, but she really ignores my husband. I usually have to tell her to "GO", then she'll follow my husband.

Good luck with the dogs.
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Old 05-11-2011, 06:13 PM
 
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She's here!!! She is quite the docile thing and has already bonded with me in an hour. She is laying with her head on my lap as we speak. The trainer they were using with her is stopping by on Friday to go over what they were working on. Now I just need a new name for her - Anna or Possum? She hasn't told me yet - anyone else want to weigh in on the two?

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Old 05-12-2011, 07:55 AM
 
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She's here!!! She is quite the docile thing and has already bonded with me in an hour. She is laying with her head on my lap as we speak. The trainer they were using with her is stopping by on Friday to go over what they were working on. Now I just need a new name for her - Anna or Possum? She hasn't told me yet - anyone else want to weigh in on the two?
YAY!!! Didn't I tell you she would be on you like white on rice? So cute, she sounds just like my GSD at her age, who always used to sleep with her head in my lap and who would never let me out of her sight (she still won't).

Possum is the cutest name, I love it. I think Anna is a little formal--how about Annie? You could name her Anna/Annie but then have Possum as her nickname. Or her name could be Anna/Annie Possum, or Possum Annie?
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Old 05-12-2011, 08:02 AM
 
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I woke up in the middle of the night and who did I see snuggled up together like peas in a pod? My big dog Nina and the new dog. It's like she's been here forever and I said, "Who wants to go outside?" this morning and she followed Nina right out the door, did what she was suppose to do and came back in. This was an issue she'd been having - housebreaking. In fact I found out last night from her fosters she had been adopted out and returned already and the people kept her for only 4 days because they couldn't deal with the housebreaking. She said, she should have known better when they asked them to take their shoes off before walking on the carpet - sheeesh.

I keep calling her by both names and she'll let me know what her name is just like the rest of them did.
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Old 05-12-2011, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Montreal -> CT -> MA -> Montreal
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She's here!!! She is quite the docile thing and has already bonded with me in an hour. She is laying with her head on my lap as we speak. The trainer they were using with her is stopping by on Friday to go over what they were working on. Now I just need a new name for her - Anna or Possum? She hasn't told me yet - anyone else want to weigh in on the two?
I'm in love with her!!!! She's so deliciously cute!!!! And, of course, I'm thrilled for both of you!

Anna Banana Possum Blossom.
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Louisiana
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I'm in love with her!!!! She's so deliciously cute!!!! And, of course, I'm thrilled for both of you!

Anna Banana Possum Blossom.
She is adorable!!! Congrats! I agree with Dawn. Anna Banana Possum Blossom Takes the formality of Anna right out.
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