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Old 07-23-2011, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Simmering in DFW
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I volunteer with 4 different rescue groups as a foster home. I must admit to being somewhat addicted to reading the "Pets" classified on Craigslist. Often a person will post an ad looking to rehome a dog at a resonable/free rate. I might respond with suggestions about how this person should qualify anyone interested in their dog or even suggest an appropriate rescue group.

There is someone who is regularly posting using this Line: BOSTON TERRIER OF NORTH TEXAS, INC. And then the posts sometimes indicate they take BT's or have some for adoption. You are supposed to reply to the CL email link. I volunteer for the local BT rescue group and they don't advertise on CL. The name on the CL post is very close to the real name of the group. The rescue group has emailed him threatening legal action if he doesn't stop. People are surrendering dogs to him thinking their babies will be provided vet care and new, properly screened homes will adopt them. I believe he just sells them. I doubt he provides veterinary care. We know who he is and where he lives. Rescue groups do not have funds for legal actions. All adoption fees go on to caring for dogs and generally the budget is in the red. Any suggestions for dealing with this?
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Old 07-23-2011, 08:03 AM
 
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What you can do is post on CL what you posted here... basically, put him on public notice that he's a fake. Point out that if he were a bona fide rescue, he wouldn't use CL as his e-mail response. Point out that the name is close to a real rescue group, but is not the real deal. Is the real group a 501(c)3? They can be verified on the IRS website. Is he claiming to be a 501(c)3? Basically, educate the public using his own source of procurement of these dogs.

Put a list of questions people should ask when they surrender to/adopt from this group:

If a 501(c)3, ask for confirmation of that and verify on the IRS site.
A real rescue group will have a regular vet. Ask for the name of the vet and call to verify.
Is there a website?

ETA: Always flag his posts as prohibited. But since you need more than 1 individual flagger, talk to the group affected (and anyone else) to look for his ads and have them flag the ads, too.

Also, REPLY to his ad to see what e-mail address he's using when he replies to you, and post THAT on CL as a fake.

Last edited by steelstress; 07-23-2011 at 08:19 AM.. Reason: To add flagging.
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Old 07-23-2011, 08:24 AM
 
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Check a local university law school. You may be able to bet legal assistance at little to no cost.
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:33 AM
 
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I don't have any suggestions to offer but my guess would be that this person(s) is selling the animals for research. They are usually the ones who take the "free" cats and dogs or pay low fees since they get more from the research sell.

Good for you for going after these creeps. Best wishes for finding a way to shut them down.
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Call the local ASPCA and/or Animal Care and Control. If what he is doing is illegal, then ACC will shut him down and fine him. You don't need a lawyer to prosecute someone for false advertising and animal abuse.
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Old 07-23-2011, 11:11 AM
 
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Just started browsing to see if Boston Terriers are used for dog fighting bait. Look at this:

Midwest Boston Terrier Rescue

Boston Terriers Stolen and Used as "BAIT" Dogs It is not safe to leave your Boston Terrier out to play without watching over them....
they will steal your Boston Terrier right from your yard. It turns out that in illegal dog-fighting rings, Boston Terriers are now considered the perfect "bait" for training Pit Bulls to fight, for three reasons:

1) They look like small Pit Bulls, so young Pits in training will learn to go after dogs that have that similar shape and build while not getting harmed in the training process since the Boston is much smaller.

2) Bostons, unlike many other small breeds, have a lot of Bulldog characteristics and are thus willing fight back until death. Therefore, unlike other "bait" dogs, they do more than simply stand there and let themselves get torn up and will better prepare the Pits for fighting--again, without posing too much danger of the "trainee" getting hurt since the much-smaller Boston doesn't stand a chance.

3) This is the perhaps the most stomach-churning. Fighting dogs are trained to go for the neck and throat of the opponent, and the white collar of the Boston allows a training dog's owner to more easily tell how much damage his charge is able to inflict.

PLEASE be aware of this trend since Bostons are apparently being sought-after as bait dogs. We have seen this in the Chicago and Detriot areas. It's much better to be safe than sorry.
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Old 07-23-2011, 11:29 AM
 
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Originally Posted by kitty_fl View Post
just started browsing to see if boston terriers are used for dog fighting bait. Look at this:

midwest boston terrier rescue

boston terriers stolen and used as "bait" dogs it is not safe to leave your boston terrier out to play without watching over them....
They will steal your boston terrier right from your yard. It turns out that in illegal dog-fighting rings, boston terriers are now considered the perfect "bait" for training pit bulls to fight, for three reasons:

1) they look like small pit bulls, so young pits in training will learn to go after dogs that have that similar shape and build while not getting harmed in the training process since the boston is much smaller.

2) bostons, unlike many other small breeds, have a lot of bulldog characteristics and are thus willing fight back until death. Therefore, unlike other "bait" dogs, they do more than simply stand there and let themselves get torn up and will better prepare the pits for fighting--again, without posing too much danger of the "trainee" getting hurt since the much-smaller boston doesn't stand a chance.

3) this is the perhaps the most stomach-churning. Fighting dogs are trained to go for the neck and throat of the opponent, and the white collar of the boston allows a training dog's owner to more easily tell how much damage his charge is able to inflict.

please be aware of this trend since bostons are apparently being sought-after as bait dogs. We have seen this in the chicago and detriot areas. It's much better to be safe than sorry.

op!!!!! Post the above on your cl!!!!!!
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Old 07-23-2011, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Mountains of middle TN
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If your group is a 501, contact attorneys and ask if they'll do a pro bono letter to him for you. All he needs to do is send him a letter stating he will file lawsuit if he doesn't stop using a name for the rescue that's so close to yours. (Your rescue group must be registered though) It's called a cease and desist letter here. Assuming it's the same where you are.
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Old 07-23-2011, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Simmering in DFW
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Originally Posted by mrs1885 View Post
If your group is a 501, contact attorneys and ask if they'll do a pro bono letter to him for you. All he needs to do is send him a letter stating he will file lawsuit if he doesn't stop using a name for the rescue that's so close to yours. (Your rescue group must be registered though) It's called a cease and desist letter here. Assuming it's the same where you are.
Yes, we are a 501.......good suggestion!
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Old 07-23-2011, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Mountains of middle TN
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Oh! Get your rescue on Facebook, do a note and make sure you share it with every single other rescue out there. Find out the name of the person running this rescue and get the word out to shelters and such. Facebook has been amazing for helping in situations like this.
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