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Old 12-02-2011, 10:06 PM
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by texasfirewheel View Post
Thanks again, Annie, dogmama and Katie! It does sound like a bad tooth, although my vet did a thorough job of checking out her mouth and didnt see anything. Maybe the bad area is on the back of the tooth, where it could have been missed easily.

I'm going to call the doggie dentist Monday morning and see if he can get us in right away. I'll do whatever he suggests is best for her, whether it's an extraction or a root canal.

I had a Golden Retriever who needed a root canal (after she caught a metal scent article that was being thrown to another person and it broke her tooth) years ago and she recovered very easily. And the doggie dentist decided that my older rescue doberman who had the abscess a few years ago should have an extraction -- and he never missed a beat. I'm giving Queenie Rimadyl over the weekend until the clindamycin hopefully kicks in and she isnt in much discomfort.

Thanks again, everyone. This is a great group! I'll keep you updated.
An abscess would really have to be huge to be able to detect any swelling just by looking at the tooth. Really, the gum would show some swelling.....the tooth would look fine.

The only way to see an abcess is with an x-ray.....the abscess is on the root, where you can't see it.

I am sooo glad you are calling the dentist Monday. Queenie is lucky to have a "Mom" like you.
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:08 PM
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Thanks, Annie. But I'm the lucky one. All my old rescues have always given me much more than I've given them.
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:20 PM
Location: Ohio
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Tex....I really admire your courage in adopting elderly dogs.

It is so very devastating when they pass away.....and you deliberately put yourself out there for all of that emotional pain......more frequently than the normal 12-15 years that it happens when you get a young dog.

I don't know how you handle it, but I am sure glad you do.

I have always just picked up strays as I found them....and they all have been about one to three years old.....but, if I found an old one, I would have taken them in too.
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:37 PM
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Yes, it is hard, Annie. And many dobermans dont live even 12 years. So adopting 7-8-9 year old dobermans is tough, both emotionally and financially. But they're worth all the pain that comes too soon (and, of course, all dogs die too soon) and they're worth all the vet bills that older dogs have, as well.

Queenie was obviously a puppy factory. Her sagging abdomen is evidence that she had many litters. The rescue group thinks that she was dumped because she was too old to have any more puppies. But someone cared enough for her to spay her before dumping her on the street. I suspect that, like many spayed dobermans, she started leaking urine and the owner couldnt deal with it -- not knowing that there's an inexpensive pill to take care of that problem. Since she's been at my house and gets 1/2 Proin pill a day, she's had hardly any accidents. And what a love she is.

My previous rescue dog had a real tear-jerker of a story. Someone called 911 and reported that a dog was being staked out in the yard of a run-down house and used as pit bull bait. The humane society showed up but there was a gang of men watching pit bulls attack the old doberman so nothing could be done until the cops arrived to break up the carnage. The @ 7-year old doberman was so weak from numerous infected, oozing bite wound and many ticks that he had to be carried to the humane society van. It took months for him to recover enough for me to adopt him. And, despite his horrific background, he loved all animals and all people.

The Story of Polo

I hope it's ok for me to have gone off-topic like this. But I feel so strongly about older dogs and how much happiness they can bring to adoptive homes. In the 18 months that Queenie has been here, I've laughed (and smiled) more than I thought possible.
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Old 12-03-2011, 12:30 AM
Location: Ohio
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Tex....the stories you posted were both heart warming and heart breaking.

Polo....what a trooper, what a sweetheart.....so deserving of the good home he ended up having. Thanks for posting that link.

I had a doberman mix, she looked like a small dobey, she was about 50 lbs, ears and tail intact, mixed with a little lab perhaps. She was about 3 years old. Her name was Becky. She had the female incontinence.....I think she took DES....it was so long ago, but I think that was the name of her med.... it was one little pill a day and she was fine.

One day she had a seizure.....it was a brain/nasal tumor....it was cancer and inoperable. In desperation, I had my vet send her x-rays to the vet school in Columbus....to the top specialist. Becky passed away in her sleep on the couch as I layed on the floor to be near her. She was only 12 years old. A week later I got a reply from the specialist and he said their was nothing they could do. I still have her x-rays showing the tumor.

Anyway, I have always thought if I were to ever pick out a dog, it would be a dobey....or a mix like my Becky.

But, fate picks out my dogs and cats....not me....and that's just fine.

Last winter, in January, I found a little black dog eating the bird seed I had put out on my front porch, she was skin and bones. She is all black and has a black tongue, the little, folded over ears......so.....she has Shar Pei in her, and god knows what else. LOL When I found her she was only 19 lbs. , she is 35 lbs. now. The vet said she was just shy of one year of age when I found her.

I give hundreds of dollars to my local shelter.....I wish I had the courage and fortitude to be on the front lines like you do.....but, I just can't handle it.....it would destroy me.

I honor and respect the people who volunteer and I wish I was strong enough to be one of them.
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Old 12-03-2011, 12:56 AM
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O, Annie, you have such a good heart. What a wonderful life you gave Becky. I know of several dobermans who've had nasal tumors. I'm so sorry for what you had to go through in the end.

And what a blessing that your current girl found you just when she needed someone so badly. Shar Peis are very loving and very loyal dogs so she must be a treasure.

I fostered dogs for many years but dont do it any longer. My HOA came down hard on me about the number of dogs I had. (Our limit here is two.) And, once they get you on their infraction list, they keep an eye on you for any other violations. So now I just adopt older dobermans, one at a time, and donate $$$ to several doberman rescue groups.
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Old 12-03-2011, 01:37 AM
Location: Ohio
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I could never live in a HOA.

I have my whole back yard fenced in chain link! I don't think they would like that!

It is really big.....600 feet of chain link, even with the front of the house on one side and even with the back of the house on the other. With my bushes/landscaping, you can barely notice it from the road. So it's all good as far as I am concerned. LOL

I couldn't imagine finding a dog and having someone tell me I couldn't keep it.

The most I had at one time was 4 dogs and 5 cats. Now I am thinking....at 58.....I have to be careful.....my biggest fear is....."Will I outlive them all?" I have Lucy, the dog who is almost 2 years old, seven cats, 2 years old up to 8 years old. I have friends that will take them in .....but....what if they don't live long enough either....they are a couple of years older than me.

I had one cat that lived to 21.....so I figure I need to make it to about 76 at least.

It was sure a sobering moment when it hit me one day.....the one thing I never worried about before when I took in strays was if I would live long enough to take care of them all.

I don't know how you found the strength to foster.....I could never bring myself to part with them. Crap, within hours of finding them, I am thoroughly hooked. Thank God there are people like you that can handle it.
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Old 12-03-2011, 03:07 AM
Location: West Virginia
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Yes thats Always a worry as we age! My gf diesd at 81--2 yrs ago. And to this day I no clue IF the people that she asked to care for her dog did or If they dumped him! I would have been happy to had him...sigh They took her to GA away from Family & friends here promised to keep her in their home til she died. 10 days later they dumped her into a nursing home. When she died 2 months later they had her creamated! Never told anyone til they came to WV to put her house up for sale! Yep they got everything! I asked for Brucie they never even returned my calls! He was a 10 yr old chi mix & Katie & him played together since I got her at 4 months!
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Old 12-05-2011, 06:26 PM
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Update: Queenie started acting better yesterday. I took her out to the schoolyard (in the daylight so I could keep an eye on her) and she had a grand time. She's eating great and has even been eating dog biscuits. She still licks her upper lip but only occasionally.

I called the vet this morning and asked him to give me a referral to the doggie dentist because I want to know what's going on. He suggested that I wait until the current round of antibiotics is over (and he agreed to give me four more days' worth) before we do that. I told him that, if she doesnt recover 100% in a couple more days, I want to take her to the dentist ASAP. He agreed to that.

Thanks again for all your advice and support. It really means a lot!
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Old 12-05-2011, 06:58 PM
Location: On the sunny side of a mountain
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Glad she's feeling better, hopefully the new round of antibiotics does the trick.
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