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Old 08-05-2013, 02:38 PM
 
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beezermommy, I'm sorry to hear of your beagle's illness. I wish you some more good years with him.

We were told the only way to get the entire tumor was to amputate his leg, then follow up with twice weekly radiation. At his age, we weren't going to do that to him. After extensive consultations with top people in the field (univ vet school too), and holistic vets, we opted for the holistic route to keep him happy and comfortable as long as we could. I had lost track of his age, but looked it up in his records. I thought he was 11 going on 12, but actually he was 14 at time of diagnosis. He turned 15 this spring, which is pretty good age for a lab! He used to be on tramadol, but hasn't needed it since we started holistic treatments. I cook for him, since the high quality kibble we fed, though low in grains, still had some grains. Carbs feed cancer, so he is off all carbs. He gets a combination of anti-inflammatory vegetables and fish or beef or both. Chicken is very inflammatory (as is all poultry). His body support supplements, a mix of traditional and Chinese herbals, are all lined up on the kitchen counter, handy for meal preparation. He eats well, is in good spirits, energy levels are those of a pup. He gets B12 injections when needed, occasional accupuncture, homeopathic meds. It's been 7 months since the diagnosis, and we were told he probably had 6 months at the most. So far, so good. Every day that he can catch a tennis ball, romp in the grass and beg a bone is a good day. He even likes to play with our other dogs.

We have added a new med (holistic) which has shown in recent studies to actually shrink a tumor. We'll see how that goes.

I hope your baby does well. Since your vet couldn't get all of the tumor (it's very difficult to get it all), see if you have a holistic vet in your area. A consult is worth it. Perhaps you can keep the tumor confined, or keep it from regrowing. Remember, something as simple as eliminating bad carbs can help! If you want to know more about holistic treatments, send me a dm. I'll send you specifics that you can discuss with your vet. Good luck and God bless.
Will you send me the name of the new meds you are using and information on the diet and supplements. My 13 year old sheltie has just been diagnosed with a spindle cell tumor on her chest. I would like to treat it with holistic methods. Her age and the fact that it has been very slow growing are hopeful signs. She exhibits no symptoms and is still very active.
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:20 AM
 
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Will you send me the name of the new meds you are using and information on the diet and supplements. My 13 year old sheltie has just been diagnosed with a spindle cell tumor on her chest. I would like to treat it with holistic methods. Her age and the fact that it has been very slow growing are hopeful signs. She exhibits no symptoms and is still very active.
Oh, my heart goes out to you! We have three shelties, currently all in good health.

The new med we added is Standard Process Thymex. The lab gets 12/day, 6 in the am and 6 in the pm meal, along with a handful of other supplements, both Standard Process and some chinese herbals/mushroom preparations. They are mentioned in the other posts. If you have questions, just send me a direct message.

I hope you have a holistic vet, or one who is open to working with you on it. I told my vet I've been sharing our experience in the forum and asked her if she minds taking any calls from other vets. She said she's always glad to discuss with them no matter where they are located. She's a specialist in holistic care and I'm a believer now. We are going into our 20th month. Never expected him to last so long and do so well! he's still chipper and happy, though he needs help getting into the car and going up the back steps to the deck. I can send you her name and website, if you like, and your vet and she can talk.
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Old 08-30-2013, 11:22 AM
 
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Default Update on Dusty the Lab

We had a setback where for a month or more Dusty was getting weaker and was unsteady on his legs. He seemed to walk with difficulty. Trips up and down the very short back porch steps were getting more difficult. It broke my heart to think he was in pain. Sometimes, his legs would just buckle under him, even when crossing a flat surface inside. We took him back to our vet who gave him a complete holistic exam. He had been on Tramadol for pain and she felt it was the medication that was playing havoc with his system because it can have pretty severe side effects. She said it was time to take him off, and switched him to a holistic pain med. Very quickly we saw improvement and in a matter of days we had our old Dusty back again. He's going up and down stairs (needs help coming up, but goes down on his own confidently and sure-footed), walks farther in the yard than he used to, and is back to lifting his leg.
That alone is a sure sign of improvement in balance and strength. The difference, truly, is like night and day!
He did have a urinary tract infection but we treated that with Doxycyclene (btw, if you have a Costco, know that it's available there for some $22-27 instead of $130 at a regular pharmacy.).

I am so very happy at how he's doing right now! Just wanted you to know, for encouragement, as you deal with your own furry buddies who have this disease.

For the record, we will be going into our 21st month after diagnosis, when best traditional vets in the area (specialists and the Univ vet school) thought he had, at the most, possibly 6 months, perhaps, if lucky, a year to live). This coming December, if he makes it that long, will be 2 years. For now, he's enjoying life day by day, loves catching the tennis ball outside, gets plenty of treats and *toys* in which he loves killing the squeakers. I buy them by the bag online and make my own now.
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Old 09-02-2013, 11:05 AM
 
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Such great news to hear about Dusty! That is so encouraging to me for my Mica. You have truly been a big help with all your information for myself and my vet. Mica is my Great Dane that I have asked you information about and she is doing really well. She is on all of her supplements, new diet, and she goes to the Tesla Coil 4 days a week. The people at the coil believe that her tumor is fully encapsulated and it may be time to look at removing it. We are going to give it a month and go to the vet and see what she thinks. This has truly been an adventure figuring out the avenue that I want to take. I am happy that all of our fur babies are doing good. Also, my vet had an appointment with Standard Processing and they are carrying some of there products now. It is really cool to see them moving in this direction. I have the kindest vet office that puts the care of the animal and the feelings of the owner above anything else. Working with them with my last Great Dane and my current Great Dane has been so wonderful.
Thank you for being encouraging and all your information and I look forward to hearing how things are going for Dusty and you!
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:11 PM
 
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Wonderful news, MicasMom! Keep up the good work and let us know along the way how she progresses.

And, I'm glad that my posts have been of some help and encouragement. It's encouraging to hear that your vet is open to alternative medicine and is actually adding Standard Process to his practice! That is great! My vet said she'd be very glad to talk to any vet anywhere in the country if they wanted to discuss any treatment. (I told her I've been sharing Dusty's progress and gave her a heads up that she might get a call or two. )

I think I forgot to mention that the Tramadol for Dusty's pain was replaced by Chlorophyll Complex (from Standard process). We use 3-4 capsules twice a day, and use Zeel inbetween those doses. It seems to take care of a 24-hour period quite well.

By the way, I did ask my vet about the Tesla coil and she said she does not use it. We have used cold laser and acupuncture in the past but he seems to be doing very well for now without those.

How are the rest of you doing? Would love to hear.
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Old 09-08-2013, 04:25 PM
 
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Southward Bound, glad to hear that Dusty's setback was temporary and that he's doing much better. I'm praying that he makes that December milestone and beats it by a long time!

We decided to have the surgery to remove the tumor from Hannibal's left hip. In his case, the tumor was not slow growing, and I almost felt I could see it getting larger every day. He had the surgery in late May (over three months ago now). The vet told me she got all of the tumor and that she was aggressive with her approach to his surgery. The first two days after surgery were rough, and we were starting to regret that we had put him through it (just seven months after ACL surgery). He also had trouble keeping the antibiotics down, but later in the week he started to come around. Now after three months, he's back to normal. But I do watch that area very closely for any signs of the tumor recurring.

We haven't tried any holistic medicines or changed his diet yet since he seems to be doing well. He's on antibiotics now for an ear infection (which pops up a few times a year), but other than than he's not on any medication. His activity level is restricted somewhat because we've been told that there's a high chance that he will tear his other ACL; he can't freely run around the yard and chase balls or squirrels like he used to do, but that's really his only limitation. He's a happy and content dog right now -- and it's our intention to keep him that way for as long as possible.

You've been so helpful to all of us on this journey. I'm glad I found this site and got to meet you, at least through our posts!

Leslie
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Old 09-09-2013, 02:22 PM
 
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Hannysmom, that's awesome news!!!! I'm so glad to read it. I know how difficult it must have been for a while there, but you've clearly done a great job taking care of him. Kudos to you! You set such a fine example of caring and responsibility. Our animals count on us -- we are all they have -- and it's the least we can do for the unconditional love and loyalty they give us.

May you have nothing but bright and happy days ahead as Hannibal continues to recover! Thanks for sharing your experiences with the rest of us.
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Old 09-18-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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Hi, my black lab just had a tumor removed. pathology report says spindle cell neoplasia, grade 1 hemengiopericytoma, carpus. nureofibrosarcoma,malignant schwanna,myxosarcoma and fibrosarcoma are all in this report which I think is more than one type of cells. I am confused to what this all means. he is only 5 yrs old and otherwise healthy, radiation was recommended but theres no one in my area that treats oncology. can anyone help me understand all this and give options? the tumor was hard to remove cause it was attatched to tendons and bone, any help would be appreciated. thank you...Ilovemydog
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Old 09-19-2013, 07:08 AM
 
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Hi, my black lab just had a tumor removed. pathology report says spindle cell neoplasia, grade 1 hemengiopericytoma, carpus. nureofibrosarcoma,malignant schwanna,myxosarcoma and fibrosarcoma are all in this report which I think is more than one type of cells. I am confused to what this all means. he is only 5 yrs old and otherwise healthy, radiation was recommended but theres no one in my area that treats oncology. can anyone help me understand all this and give options? the tumor was hard to remove cause it was attatched to tendons and bone, any help would be appreciated. thank you...Ilovemydog
So sorry to hear this in such a young dog...I sent you a direct message, and will help with whatever info you need. I can only tell you what has worked for us. It may work for others, and then again it may need to be modified for a specific case. My reading has taught me that carbohydrates feed cancer cells, so the first thing I'd do is go totally grain-free. We do feed sweet potatoes in his meals, but the vet explained that's a good carb. Some dog foods have white potatoes and that's a big no-no. White potatoes aren't even good for us two legged critters! (and I love potatoes!) Sigh. Getting to enjoy those sweet potatoes instead. When I microwave them for Dusty, I always include some for our dinner too. I've learned so much about good nutrition for the human body just by listening closely to our holistic vet!

Don't be discouraged, Tucker's mom. It's a scary thing to face cancers but it's also a learning experience. Be open to all you read and learn, and be critical and objective about all of it. Critical analysis is important. Know your sources, and check your information against a good vet (or several). Prepare for the long haul and who knows - you and Tucker may do quite well! There are many caring people here in this thread who are going through similar situations, and can offer advice based on their experiences.

Let us know how you're doing and when you have questions.
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Old 09-19-2013, 10:29 AM
 
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Hi. Thank you for the dm. I didn't realize u could only do 1 a day so ill try here. Tucker eats chicken soup for the dog lovers soul. He does get treats during the day. He is6 days post op and doing very well. I just got the news 2 days ago and am pursuing other vets in oncology, but will make calls later today. My husband was just diagnosed with cancer a month ago and we have a lot of dr appointments for him. We live in Staatsburg NY which is near Poughkeepsie . My vet is valley vet in pleasant valley. I have read the threads and am encouraged and happy dusty is doing well. I love my dog sooo much . He is such a great dog. I am going to change his diet, read thru the treads again. I still don't understand all those "Oma's " but will ask the specialty vet when I get an appt. thank you so much and I will keep in touch.
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