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Old 03-20-2012, 08:00 PM
 
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Hi Norasmom -- Missed your other post so don't fully know your situation, but wanted to let you know that I have a shih tzu who is 15 years old now who -- back in late 2007/2008 -- contracted Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever (Rickettsia) twice and Bartonella Henselae once.

Never saw a tick on him, but he was ill three different times from these tick-borne illnesses.

First go-around we didn't know what was wrong with him, and I am not kidding you when I say he was so sick I thought he was dying. Months into the illness, a vet specialist in Charlotte, NC ran a tick titer panel and diagnosed him.

After that I drove roundtrip from eastern NC to Charlotte every eight or 12 weeks for the remainder of the year to have him retested to make sure the illness fully cleared his system.

That's how we caught the Bartonella Henselae that summer and the second round of RMSF.

Treatment all three times with Doxy and Metronidazole.

And understand your worries because he was one very sick little boy. These tick-borne illnesses are very, very serious.

And he's done great since then. Knock on wood.

Don't know if any of this helps, but figured you'd like to know someone else has been through it...
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Old 03-20-2012, 08:17 PM
 
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Ahhh, just read your other post. No fun, no fun at all, trying to get to the root of these kinds of medical problems...
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:16 AM
 
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Oh Barndog, so glad your pup is ok. What an ordeal for both of you - very scary!

That's interesting that he was treated with doxy and metronidazole. My dog developed some crazy sores on the inside of her ear flaps around the time when all of this started happening, and I wonder if metrozidanole might help. She's been doing a little better so I'm going to try and cut back a bit on the tramadol and carprofen (keeping her on the doxy and azithromycin). I'll talk to my vet about all of it.

I think this explains her iffy behavior with other dogs too - she'd do great in day care for an hour, then get a little snarly (we stopped going). I think her joints hurt after playing and then she didn't want to be bothered anymore.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:02 AM
 
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I am writing because your situation sounds uncannily like mine. My dog Toby collapsed several times and after many tests was diagnosed with anaplasmosis and put on Doxycycline. He improved a bit, but then worsened again. I also went back to my old vet, who is more tick-savvy, and she suspects Bartonella. Unfortunately since Toby has already had 2 weeks of Doxycycline, it is too late to run an accurate PCR. He started Azithromycin 2 days ago in addition to the doxy. He has already improved quite a bit, but is also having GI problems.
Unfortunately he cannot take prednisone, as he has Cushings Disease as well.
I'd love to keep in touch and share info. This stuff is nasty and very complex!
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:38 AM
 
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Unfortunately since Toby has already had 2 weeks of Doxycycline, it is too late to run an accurate PCR.
I run PCR every day. All they need is one copy of DNA. Get some blood and extract DNA and run. If Doxycycline killed all the bacteria, they can't detect it and the dog should also recover from illness. If there is one bacteria left, PCR should pick it up and doxycycline shouldn't block it. Just my experience.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:33 AM
 
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Toby it really is nasty. Once he's finished with the antibiotics they can run to check if it's there. But I think LingLing is probably right, it would maybe detect it because they'll amplify the DNA so whatever's there would end up detectable. I know my vet wanted to take the blood before treating, but I'm also awaiting the results from a follow-up test run after treatment. Nora is doing pretty well though she definitely still has the stiffness when getting up from soft surfaces, like my sofa. She has definitely improved though and hope your guy does too, I'll pm you! Hoping for good things for your guy.
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