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Old 07-14-2012, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Montreal -> CT -> MA -> Montreal -> Ottawa
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So. Here are the facts.

Artie came to me at 3.5 years of age, in 2007. He is now almost 9 years old.

I work from home, so Artie gets to go outside many, many, many times per day. In the year(s) before he came to me, he was crated all day while his person went to work. But for the past almost 6 years, "holding it" has never been an issue -- we go out many more times than he needs to.

He does hold it fine all night. Our last outing to pee is at around 10pm, and even when I let him out at as late as 6.30am the next morning, he oftentimes just hangs around, not ready to pee yet. So, he can definitely hold it for 9+ hours. It's just that on any given day, there's no reason for him to have to hold it because I let him out so frequently (at which times sometimes he pees, sometimes he doesn't).

That's my fault. I've spoiled him.

Now. My question.

Because I've practically trained his bladder to know that it doesn't have to hold it -- except for nighttime -- I worry about when my husband and I go on a day trip, and can be gone for 6 or 7 hours.

Granted, I know that he sleeps much (or all) of that time. But still. It's not his normal routine.

If we're gone for longer, I arrange for someone to come let him out every 4-5 hours while we're away. But for those shorter day trips (say 6 or 7 hours), I want to be able to enjoy myself and not worry if Artie is sitting on the floor with his legs crossed, holding his pee in, praying that I'll be home soon so that he can go out. I know that, even if he does the worst -- pee and/or poop inside -- that I'd deal with it, but I'd hate to put him in a position to be to the point of doing what he's never done before -- eliminating in the house.

But, oh wise ones, do you think that he, after almost 6 years of not having to hold it, can hold it on those days, for 6 or 7 hours? I know that you can't guarantee anything -- nor are you going to come clean my floors -- but do you think, given that it's not a "normal routine day" and that Artie would sleep for most of it, that I could be gone for 6 or 7 hours without worrying about his bladder exploding?

Yes. I'm neurotic.
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Old 07-14-2012, 05:12 PM
 
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I didn't work for a few years and did the same as you with taking the girls out every couple hours and they never had to hold it. I started working again and worried about them so I started leaving them for 5-6 hours and then 6-7 without any problems. There have been a few times where they are home for 8-9 hours and they just seem to sleep while I panic that I need to get home and take them out. I think it was just a matter of varying the routine and making sure they pee before I leave.
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Old 07-14-2012, 06:19 PM
 
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I agree. I think he should be fine. As Dogmama said, he'll probably sleep most of the time anyway. When I go out, I let my dogs out right before I go and tell them to pee because Mommy's going out. They've learned what I mean, and they always pee for me.

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Old 07-14-2012, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Santa Barbara CA
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I think Artie will be fine too. Jazz and Dash were use to having a dog door so could go out whenever they wanted to but sometimes when I would visit my parents especially when my sister was there with my neice and nephew we would do day trips ( say to Disneyland, seaworld, SD zoo) and would be gone all day sometimes even 12 hrs or longer and because Jazz would jump the fence if I left the property she and Dash would get locked in a bedroom and they were fine. Never an accident and never in a big hurry to go out as they always had to greet everyone and get some love from me first.
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Old 07-14-2012, 07:56 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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I would for peace of mind have some one check on him & let him out .... Even IF he can hold it Why make him at this point in his life. Also as dogs [& people] holding as get older is hard LOL Poor boy not going to understand you leaving for a couple hrs shopping to being gone ALL Day!
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Montreal -> CT -> MA -> Montreal -> Ottawa
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The first three responses made me feel good. Katie, you ruined the streak! Ha! Sometimes, Katie, it's hard to get someone to come to let him out. Also, sometimes I think I'll be out for 4 hours, but then something happens -- there's somewhere else to go -- and the time stretches.
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Old 07-15-2012, 07:12 AM
 
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DandJ, do you have a fenced yard that you can put locks on the gates? Have you thought about a doggy door?
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Old 07-15-2012, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Montreal -> CT -> MA -> Montreal -> Ottawa
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DandJ, do you have a fenced yard that you can put locks on the gates? Have you thought about a doggy door?
I do have a fenced yard but Artie's a barker and I don't want him to go out unattended. He could end up disturbing the neighbors for all 6-7 hours that I'm gone. I also don't know, if left to his own devices, if he could end up digging himself out from under the fence. He's never tried, but if left alone for so many hours, I don't know what he'd attempt.
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:00 AM
 
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What is funny...is the ways dogs act when Mama is not around. I always worried Sam would bark when left outside...so I asked my neighbor to monitor Sam for me when I was gone. Basically he barked when we left...and then patrolled the yard, barked at a few birds, and napped. When we got home...he barked up a storm...so...I wondered if he carried on like that all the time. No....just if he wanted Mama's attention. He did not bark all day.

Dogs will soak up and need as much attention as you give them...but will also adjust if you are gone. Artie will "hold" his pee...he has been trained to not go in the house. But since you are there....why bother?

Now...a more difficult thing to, "untrain"...Sam was always rather suspicious of men...this made my male cousin nervous...so he would feed Sam a hotdog whenever he growled at him...well....smart Sam! Realized if he growled at Ed....he got a hotdog! I really think he was just messing with Ed...he never bit anyone. But he would take a hotdog, anytime....
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Montreal -> CT -> MA -> Montreal -> Ottawa
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What is funny...is the ways dogs act when Mama is not around. I always worried Sam would bark when left outside...so I asked my neighbor to monitor Sam for me when I was gone. Basically he barked when we left...and then patrolled the yard, barked at a few birds, and napped. When we got home...he barked up a storm...so...I wondered if he carried on like that all the time. No....just if he wanted Mama's attention. He did not bark all day.

Dogs will soak up and need as much attention as you give them...but will also adjust if you are gone. Artie will "hold" his pee...he has been trained to not go in the house. But since you are there....why bother?

Now...a more difficult thing to, "untrain"...Sam was always rather suspicious of men...this made my male cousin nervous...so he would feed Sam a hotdog whenever he growled at him...well....smart Sam! Realized if he growled at Ed....he got a hotdog! I really think he was just messing with Ed...he never bit anyone. But he would take a hotdog, anytime....
I really don't want to risk the outdoor thing. He'd be inside. But you're sounding like Artie would adjust to the schedule change... Right?
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