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Old 07-16-2013, 12:10 PM
 
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"Hit" does not constitute "punch to the face" and certainly not "injure" the dog. It was a lack of better words for "physically discipline." Unless you have a special dog that speaks English, I'd bet your animal understands force more than anything else.

Regardless of method of training, this girl hadn't tried anything at all, and seemed to be totally fine with it.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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"Hit" does not constitute "punch to the face" and certainly not "injure" the dog. It was a lack of better words for "physically discipline." Unless you have a special dog that speaks English, I'd bet your animal understands force more than anything else.

Regardless of method of training, this girl hadn't tried anything at all, and seemed to be totally fine with it.
Sorry, still don't agree. I train my dog using positive methods. No physical discipline needed. She's a lab also. Labs are working dogs that have been breed and trained to work hand in hand with people. She wants to please me. Postive praise and treats of course is all that is needed.

Besides, it I "hit" her with my hand, I'd hurt my hand before it would even make her notice. Labs have a high tolerance for pain.

Saying all that, you are right that the girl does need to train her dog. Just not by your methods.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:24 PM
 
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Annoying dogs are annoying, as are annoying people. There are both that are not annoying. I'm a dog lover. I dated a girl (kinda not really) who had a dog she never disciplined. This girl was 22 and had had the dog for a year. It was so misbehaved, that as hot as this female was, it almost didn't overrule how much I hated this dog.

You enter the house, and the dog (a black lab) jumps all over you... I mean, up to eye level jumping on you. Then she licks everything she can reach on you. You'd better not try and sit on the couch for a movie... Dog (40lbs) jumps all over you, licks all over your face, steps on your crotch, etc., etc... She NEVER seemed to think it was a big deal. She'd laugh and give one of the two excuses you listed. I slept over one night... greeted at 7AM by 40 lbs of meat jumping on my nude body.

I got especially pissed one night and asked her "Do you know why your dog acts like this?" (She had had this dog for over a year.)

"Why do you think?"

"Because you never discipline it. You don't hit your dog."

With a reactionary recoil, like I'd just defended Nazi war criminals, or recommended ordering some panda-fur-lined underwear, she snaps at me "If you ever hit my dog, you can leave and never speak to me again."

What I meant here isn't animal abuse. It's a quick snap to the back of the neck, or a firm pinch, purely to assert dominance and remind the animal that they answer to you, and not vica versa.

Yes, I am a dog person, but I understand that this means dogs will be in check. Some people are very bad dog owners.

I may not like untrained dog behavior but I would NEVER EVER tell someone to HIT her dog, and if I were that woman, I would have chucked you out the door right then.

You call yourself a "dog person" and condone hitting an animal? You are not in any way shape or form a "dog person". You don't teach obedience with pain and fear. What an attitude, good grief.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:47 PM
 
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I may not like untrained dog behavior but I would NEVER EVER tell someone to HIT her dog, and if I were that woman, I would have chucked you out the door right then.

You call yourself a "dog person" and condone hitting an animal? You are not in any way shape or form a "dog person". You don't teach obedience with pain and fear. What an attitude, good grief.
Do/did you spank your children?
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Old 07-16-2013, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Utah
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Old 07-16-2013, 02:21 PM
 
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A little draconian, but I will not associate with anyone on a personal level that does not like dogs. I do not own a dog, but my opinion is there is something mentally wrong with a person who does not like dogs, so I have no desire to be around them.
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Old 07-16-2013, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Austell, Georgia
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A little draconian, but I will not associate with anyone on a personal level that does not like dogs. I do not own a dog, but my opinion is there is something mentally wrong with a person who does not like dogs, so I have no desire to be around them.
I love dogs but there is something wrong with you for thinking like this!
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:31 PM
 
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Do/did you spank your children?
I don't believe in hitting, whether it be animals, children or other adults. Violence begets violence. I have nothing more to say to you.
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Old 07-18-2013, 01:55 PM
 
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Well, I'm glad that's out of the way.
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:02 AM
 
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I'd beat my children before I beat my dog lol. That is, if I had children.
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