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Old 11-11-2007, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Ladysmith,Wisconsin
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How did hunters train the dogs Before electricty & shock collars were invented?
You really want to know?

Beatings if did wrong, some were shot on spot if took off on deer, some like we did caught live coon and used roll cages and such for them to scent and trail or toss a live coon onto dog make him meaner and want to catch and kill them. They have training scents to help for somethings, had a friend had dog chased deer once and we took roadkill deer and tied leg to collar and let rot on dog so got sick on deer smell..

Training collars/shock collars are ok unless abused as in full shock all times. Couple shocks and not real strong is sometimes enough to stop em from doing things. Obedience is also part of it and positive reinforcement training as letting them chew on a coon , or sniff that bird and lots of praise when they retrieve.
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Old 11-12-2007, 05:31 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Some people a nasty no matter what, my friends were not thankfully.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:06 PM
 
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We have 2 flatcoat retrievers. We just let them be dogs, no hunting or training or shock collars. FunMatches only.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:13 PM
 
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Just make sure you have a long line on the dog before you administer 'the first zap'! I haven't worked any of the labs, but I had a GWP that I trained to be a dual dog (ducks and upland game birds)....he actually did pretty good in the ring also. I ended up selling him though because he just worked too far for my liking. I got him to come in a bit but I noticed he did better with someone that could tramp through the fields a bit quicker :-)
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:01 PM
 
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You don't just put the collar on the dog and start burning him. You start with a behavior that the dog already knows, with the collar on the very lowest setting until you find the level that works best for that dog. Also, I don't know much about hunting with pointers so I'd be interested in hearing your input on that. I started this thread to be about all kinds of field training, so please chime in Astrogal! Have you gotten another bird dog?
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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When I lived in Nebraska I got a golden retriever that I field trained myself, without the use of shock collars. Before he was ready to learn how to properly retrieve, which is an innate ability in retrievers, I first had to teach him how to "heel."

When I got him to sit and stay, even after I threw the dummy for him to fetch, then I knew he was ready to learn how to properly retrieve. I didn't want him running around in the field where he might get accidentally shot. I wanted him right beside me at all times until I gave him the command to fetch. I used only voice and hand signals to train him, beginning at around 3 months. He was a very willful dog, and wasn't fully trained until around the age of 3 years old.

I don't think it ever occurred to him to run off with my pheasant, duck, or goose. He was happiest when he brought me my game and dropped it at my feet.

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During break time at obedience school, two dogs were talking. One said to the other..."The thing I hate about obedience school is you learn ALL this stuff you will never use in the real world."

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Old 11-15-2007, 07:13 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Thats how my friends trained! Good going Glitch!!!
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:13 AM
 
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Believe it or not, there are groups that field trial dachshunds. Also they blood track (on a leash) with them. They were bred as hunting dogs - not to be lap dogs like so many that own that breed insist.
Many of the ones that field trial are wirehairs. Also the dogs from germany are field-bred and they have distinctions - teckel, which is a larger chested larger dog. And the zwerg-teckel which is used to hunt rabbit and is smaller. (miniature)
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:39 PM
 
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I'll write soon about my GWP....I am just way to busy too respond at the moment!
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:27 AM
 
Location: dayton ohio
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Default field trainners near dayton ohio

Does anyone know of a good place to get some field training for a golden retriever near Dayton Ohio?
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