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Old 09-24-2013, 06:33 AM
 
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She passes the "flip test."
Then it's not degenerative myelopathy.

Did the vet do blood work?
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:40 AM
 
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I hate these tricky diagnoses.

MG can be difficult to diagnose and from memory on my Yahoo megaesophagus board, their legs don't splay outward all the time, they usually just collapse but I could be wrong. Myasthenia gravis (MG) is a weakening of the voluntary muscles anywhere in the body.

I'd have the titers done again through your vet but by Diane Shelton. Sometimes one doesn't nail it down. Your vet probably knows who that is. She's the national expert at UCSD. G. Diane Shelton, D.V.M, Ph.D. - Department of Pathology - UC San Diego Comparative Neuromuscular Laboratory

Alternatively sometimes a vet will "try" the MG treatment to see if there is a level that decreases symptoms to see if that makes any difference. It all depends on how "bad" it seems and the other possible DXs.

I don't see a Yahoo group for strictly dog MG but try this one for laryngeal paralysis (LP). MG is often primary to LP. You can ask to join (it's a closed group) then read through the posts. But be aware that LP is the primary focus.

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myasthenia gravis yahoo groups | Myasthenia Gravis Web Guide

If he's "stumped" it's time to see a neurologist. And orthopedist. Myopathies have ways of being dx when a neurologist is seeing them all day every day compared to a general practice vet who may not be having the same experience. Also screen for Cushings. You do NOT want to wait on this insidious stuff. And if you see her randomly dropping food out of her mouth or hacking while eating ...RUN to the specialist. MG is often reversible, mega-E and LP not so much. All neuro related.

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Old 09-24-2013, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Waxhaw, NC
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Test for lyme disease too. My dog went to the vet and was diagnosed with partial torn cruciate... after 5 months i suggested blood work and voila! She has gotten bit by a tick, even on prevention meds.
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:01 PM
 
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Test for lyme disease too. My dog went to the vet and was diagnosed with partial torn cruciate... after 5 months i suggested blood work and voila! She has gotten bit by a tick, even on prevention meds.
OMG!
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Old 09-25-2013, 06:46 AM
 
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I was sure my basset's leg problems were de to lymes because I found a tick on him last fall. (My husband caught lymes last spring.) After asking repeatedly, a vet finally tested him and he was negative. The test was worth it though. Whatever the result would be, I had an answer.
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:51 AM
 
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It sounds like her hips. Do you have slippery floors indoors? That can cause problems with dogs joints and makes it very difficult for them to walk.
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Old 09-28-2013, 07:56 PM
 
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It sounds like her hips. Do you have slippery floors indoors? That can cause problems with dogs joints and makes it very difficult for them to walk.
Actually we do have hard surfaces (tile and hardwood), but she's over 5 years old and just started showing these symptoms a couple months ago. I suppose if her joints or muscles are getting weaker with age, the hard floors could be more of a problem now than they used to be.

We have another appt with the vet on Monday.
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Old 09-29-2013, 12:48 AM
 
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She's a small breed and only 5 years old. That's young for a small breed. It's not age.

It's probably genetics. That happens with purebreds if the breeder isn't responsible.

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LEG PROBLEMS
Many toy dogs and other small breeds suffer from trouble with the knee joints, known as luxating patella, though of course only a few individuals are thus affected. Responsible breeders have their breeding stock checked regularly by their vets in an endeavor to reduce the incidence. Another important factor is that a dog should not be overweight, as this is likely to make the problem worse. Many dogs with luxating patella live with this problem without experiencing pain, but surgery sometimes has to be undertaken and is often successful.

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Old 09-29-2013, 06:56 AM
 
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She's a small breed and only 5 years old. That's young for a small breed. It's not age.

It's probably genetics. That happens with purebreds if the breeder isn't responsible.

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LEG PROBLEMS
Many toy dogs and other small breeds suffer from trouble with the knee joints, known as luxating patella, though of course only a few individuals are thus affected. Responsible breeders have their breeding stock checked regularly by their vets in an endeavor to reduce the incidence. Another important factor is that a dog should not be overweight, as this is likely to make the problem worse. Many dogs with luxating patella live with this problem without experiencing pain, but surgery sometimes has to be undertaken and is often successful.

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As I mentioned earlier in the thread (I don't know if you saw it), she does have luxating patella. She had surgery on one back knee in March, and will likely need it on the other in the future. But it's something else going on this time.

You gave a good reminder about responsible breeders attempting to reduce the incidence of these issues. I don't actually know much about the breeder Lily came from. I didn't know anything about any of that when I bought her back in 2008. I was just someone who wanted a dog, and I had no idea that finding a breeder in the newspaper could be a problem. I hadn't yet discovered this website and had never heard the term "backyard breeder" or "puppy mill." I guess I thought a dog was a dog was a dog (well, different breeds, of course), you know what I mean? I'm crazy-in-love with my dog, and I guess it's good she ended up with someone who will take care of her even if it does get a bit expensive.
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Old 09-29-2013, 12:50 PM
 
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Aw, Kayanne, you're not alone. Most people don't know any better, but more and more, people are becoming aware of what bad breeders do and how they operate. You're right about Lily being lucky she ended up with the right mom. I hope you find your answers and can give her a comfortable and active life, because she really is quite young!
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