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Old 10-15-2013, 01:29 AM
 
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OP, here's a Cesar Millan video SHOWING you practical techniques on the car thing. (and other techniques for fear) A serious case an extremely fearful gentle Akita. He has alot more issues - even leashes, brushing - and some physical problems but the car part is a big part. You get to see him evolve and go to the park, the grooming, the vet when he hadn't ever been out of a concrete backyard in his life. IN the end he's a completely different dog.

How he made this particular dog's brain go FORWARD not stay in the fearful mode. With ENERGY. And food to get the brain MOVING. And using the balanced dog roommate as a helper. And then when reaching a wall, listening/watching to the dog's signals. WAtch at 19:50 wheelbarrow technique LOL The car part starts at 24:00 and continues throughout the episode. Because the car was difficult for him. (it's a pickup truck bed, tho).You'll notice not once did he say "It's ok it's OK" in a high pitch voice etc.

Obviously the average person can't do all these things that's why they say don't do this at home and get a professional. The point is to see how CALM energy and consistency and encouraging the dog to go FORWARD not live in the fear works.

It's Hulu. There's alot of commercials. I put a different link to youtube below it.

[hulu=http://www.flickr.com/photos/110393]vtVSEf18fYjaTeVLcnm8sg[/hulu]

Here's a link on youtube Season 5 Episode 18: Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtWXd...YN631&index=63

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Old 10-15-2013, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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You might try a Thundershirt. One of my three is terrible with thunder or fireworks and when we put the thundershirt on her, it is like flipping a switch. She will lay down and relax while the world comes crashing down around her.

Thundershirt | The Best Dog Anxiety Treatment
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Old 10-15-2013, 12:25 PM
 
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First I want to direct you to some information about the myth that it is possible to reinforce fear in dogs by comforting or reassuring them when they are frightened. Please have a look at this material:

Myth of reinforcing fear | Fearful Dogs

You Canít Reinforce Fear Ľ TheOtherEndoftheLeash


You can't reinforce fear- dog training - YouTube

Now here is a guide for getting your dogs adjusted to car rides:

1) First you'll work with your dogs in the vehicle without even starting the engine. Sit with them in the vehicle and just hang out, act normal, tell them what good dogs they are, give each a treat or two or three, give them something to chew on, just generally make it a pleasant, relaxing experience and keep your energy really low key & casual.

2) Repeat the above type of experience with the vehicle running but stationary. So all we are adding here is the sound and feel of the engine. In all of these steps you can also play the radio in the car.

3) Once the dogs start to completely associate the car with relaxation, we'll bring movement into the picture. First just pull the car down and up the driveway. After you see they're doing well with that, go for a slow drive around the block. If you're seeing much anxiety at this stage, that indicates we are progressing too rapidly and need to take a step back in the process.

4) On these rides around the block, you might want to give your dogs special new toys that you know they'll love, or Kongs stuffed with frozen peanut butter, or some kind of little chew bone or a bully stick. Pick something they'll find irresistible that you feel is safe for the car. Let them have it only in the car during the rides. Take it away when each car ride is over. If they are not interested in what you're giving them, it's not good enough so find something better! You might even have to give them something different each ride but the only time they get these special items is in the car.

5) Pick several nearby destinations that your dogs will love and take them to those places. These should be short trips! Maybe they like going to a special friend's house to play, or to the ice cream stand that sells doggie cones, or the pet store, or the dog park, or training class, or a hiking trail, or going to visit a particular person - make a point of going to these places regularly.

6) Take them on a longer drive, on the highway during a time of day when there is not much traffic. So far we have been working in short time intervals, now we want to increase their tolerance for length of time in the car, but we want to do that on the highway because it will be a smoother ride (no stop & go, turns, etc.)
Great advice, thanks for posting the links on the myth about comforting dogs.
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Old 10-15-2013, 12:27 PM
 
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You might try a Thundershirt. One of my three is terrible with thunder or fireworks and when we put the thundershirt on her, it is like flipping a switch. She will lay down and relax while the world comes crashing down around her.

Thundershirt | The Best Dog Anxiety Treatment

I've also heard that the thundershirt has really helped a lot of dogs.
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Old 10-16-2013, 05:20 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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I think everyone is over thinking this whole deal by concentrating on your behavior in the car. Your dogs are rescues, we all know that many come with baggage. Perhaps the car meant bad things in their past.

The answer is simple. Continue to take them to great places such as the walk in the woods. Ideally you will be able to find them great places to go with a quick ride that is not 10 minutes. This lessens the stress and gets to the reward faster Our dogs, like most, equate a car ride to going to a great place. What owner has not enjoyed their dog's reaction to the magic words "go for a ride?"

Keep at it and IMO the dogs will not only stop being afraid but will be thrilled to go in the car.
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Old 10-16-2013, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I've also heard that the thundershirt has really helped a lot of dogs.
I read in one review on amazon that if you can find a tighter fitting (human's) shirt to fit your dog, it is virtually the same thing as a thunder shirt lol.

We travel in our vehicle with our dogs a lot in the summer. Wouldn't a thunder shirt be hot for them even if the AC is on for our comfort level?
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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I would assume that any type of tight fitting clothing article would work to some extent. Its just the Thundershirt is made in such a way that it is easy to get on and then the second flap allows you to make it tighter after its on. It is also a thicker material than say a T Shirt so it can probably deliver more pressure. Also, since its made for dogs its cut to the right size, though you could trim something if you want to. Its also more stylish if you care about such things.
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