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But the real story is that all the other passengers joined in protesting the airlines actions and rode the bus to the destination. That is truly heartwarming. There is so discrepancy in this story and what I saw on TV this morning. That story said the passengers all walked off the plane in solidarity with the blind man and this story says they all were kicked off. So who knows. The fact that a seeing eye dog got restless after an hour and a half on the tarmac and "wiggled" is reason to remove him and the blind man seems so unfair.
How on earth is that dog supposed to fit under a plane seat let alone stay there motionless for the entire flight plus the hour and a half delay on the tarmac?
I too would have been outraged if I witnessed this.
How on earth is that dog supposed to fit under a plane seat let alone stay there motionless for the entire flight plus the hour and a half delay on the tarmac?
I too would have been outraged if I witnessed this.
I would like to see that flight attendant curl their body to fit under a seat and stay still for an hour and a half during the delay.
absolulty ridiculous....
that man and the ADA should tear them a new one!
im not typically one for the "make an example of them" mentality...
but being disabled is hard enough, there are already so many daily fights...
adding a service dog often only complicates matters when it shouldn't...
the dog wasn't being disruptive, it wasn't causing issues for the other pasengers or flight crew (barking, blocking the aisle ect) so it was pure discrimination.
most airline policies state that your dog must be on the floor between your knees and the seat in front of you
ADA does not cover air travel or aircrafts, it only covers the terminals and public areas of the airport. Under the Air Carrier Access Act, a Service Animal can be denied travel if it is aggressive, disruptive, agitated or otherwise presents a safety concern. Before removing a passenger and their Service Animal, the flight crew will discuss the situation with the company's resolution specialist who in consultation with the aircraft captain will make a determination.
Disability advocates caution disabled travelers to be aware of the aircraft type and take steps necessary to ensure their animal is comfortable on certain equipment, especially those that are prop driven and confined such as this flight.
The passenger did acknowledge that the Service Animal was getting agitated and not following his commands to remain still. He also admitted that he may have gotten a little vocal with the flight attendant. The flight attendant wanted the animal secured "at his feet" which is standard practice and a requirement of the FAA. Having an animal in the aisle during takeoff and landing is not permitted. There is some disagreement even amongst the passengers if the request was for the animal to be stowed "under the seat" or was it "secured at his feet". That will have to be determined after direct interviews with all involved.
A lengthy delay is going to irritate the animal especially if it’s not use to the Dash 8, heck humans can get irritated in that sardine can. It is likely that the animal and human (and other passengers) were just irritable due to all the conditions. Federal regulations are there for a reason and the denial of transit was established in coordination with disability advocates. If the conditions reached the level of a safety concern, disabled with a Service Animal or not, the flight crew has to consider the safety of the aircraft and passengers.
I am a very big Disability and Service Animal advocate from personal family experience; however, I also fully support the ACAA and its restrictions. Being disabled and having a Service Animal is not a license to not conform to airline safety regulations.
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ADA does not cover air travel or aircrafts, it only covers the terminals and public areas of the airport. Under the Air Carrier Access Act, a Service Animal can be denied travel if it is aggressive, disruptive, agitated or otherwise presents a safety concern. Before removing a passenger and their Service Animal, the flight crew will discuss the situation with the company's resolution specialist who in consultation with the aircraft captain will make a determination.
Disability advocates caution disabled travelers to be aware of the aircraft type and take steps necessary to ensure their animal is comfortable on certain equipment, especially those that are prop driven and confined such as this flight.
The passenger did acknowledge that the Service Animal was getting agitated and not following his commands to remain still. He also admitted that he may have gotten a little vocal with the flight attendant. The flight attendant wanted the animal secured "at his feet" which is standard practice and a requirement of the FAA. Having an animal in the aisle during takeoff and landing is not permitted. There is some disagreement even amongst the passengers if the request was for the animal to be stowed "under the seat" or was it "secured at his feet". That will have to be determined after direct interviews with all involved.
A lengthy delay is going to irritate the animal especially if it’s not use to the Dash 8, heck humans can get irritated in that sardine can. It is likely that the animal and human (and other passengers) were just irritable due to all the conditions. Federal regulations are there for a reason and the denial of transit was established in coordination with disability advocates. If the conditions reached the level of a safety concern, disabled with a Service Animal or not, the flight crew has to consider the safety of the aircraft and passengers.
I am a very big Disability and Service Animal advocate from personal family experience; however, I also fully support the ACAA and its restrictions. Being disabled and having a Service Animal is not a license to not conform to airline safety regulations.
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A service dog for a blind man was probably a German shepherd or Labrador or golden retrievers. They are all too large to fit under any airline seat at all. Those under seat areas hardly allow for a Pomeranian. This meant that this very obedient dog had his butt pushed in there to try and do as he was told, but eventually would have been in excruciating pain having to stay in that position that long and would have had to get up or be crippled. Shame on the airlines. Shame on you for not seeing the necessity of this situation. You are being hypocritical at the very least.
Sounds bad but I'll withhold judgment until I hear a little more. Was the dog new to flying? Was he laying in the isle? I'll look for more info on this later.
from whative seen/read/heard about this story...the crew wanted the dog "under the seat"
the dog was fidgeting (not barking or being otherwise disruptive, just fidgeting) and wouldt remain laid down on the floor under the seat by the feet...
the dog however WAS between the legs of his handler and sat for the most part.
the dog was FIDGETING...not barking not causing a safety issue, the other passengers didn't seem to be disrupted or agrivated and the handler was attempting to keep the dog as calm, quiet and controlled as possible...
but that's ust what ive read...
personally I highly doubt all the other passengers on the plane would have stood behind this man if the dog had being a disruption enough to warrant its removal from the flight....
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