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Old 04-15-2017, 06:58 AM
 
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Re allergies---
I have gone back and done lot of reading now that I am afraid my dog is starting to have more problems...

Some dogs have grass and pollen allergies so this time of the year could be trigger for your dog's foot problem...
Have you had anything done to your yard--like fertilizer recently-- that could have caused a problem?

The problem our vet was concerned about was buying commercial food from company where the process used equipment that might cross contaminate food from past batches...
The food we were using from Royal Canin is RX required and supposedly made in sterile conditions to prevent cross contamination--one reason the food is so expensive...
I can't really check for that but I imagine it is accurate or there would be terrible complaints from users if their pets continued to break out...

Has anyone on this thread done dermatologist testing--like humans do--on their pet? The "prick tests" where various allergens are given and then watched for reaction?
I had the dermatologist we took our dog to told us that dogs often had false positives so it was difficult to use those tests for accurate evidence of allergy reactions---
And it was expensive--required general anesthetic--so we didn't go there...
That vet also tried to tell us our dog had flea allergy and that was why she had her itching/skin problems...but I don't think our dog has ever been near a flea since she hadn't been near a kennel in more than a year before developing the itching...

The problem is with food allergy you can do trial and error but it can take a month to tell if that process is accurate since reactions take long time to resolve themselves in dogs...
Especially after something like steroids have been used because they mess up the body's natural immune system...
With issues like pollen/dust mites/other topical allergens like laundry detergent used for bedding it is almost impossible to tell by trial and error...

Lot of info about pet allergies and "best" type of diets--much of which is not based on scientific evidence...Personally I think w/mfg plants as prone to lack of oversight as we have in HUMAN food production that pet food is likely worse...I would worry about compromised food chain for raw food and the risk of contaminated food...unless I were making it myself.
And even then there is risk of contamination...
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Old 04-15-2017, 08:19 AM
 
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When our dog had a hot spot on each of her hind legs, she worried them, raw.

It took time but now her legs are just fine - here's what we tried (after reading many pet forums):
cleaning wound and covering it with neosporin or sometimes micronazole just in case, it was yeast, then covering the wound with gauze and duct tape -a cone would have made her go insane. We changed her diet to raw meat and Wysong dog food.

Since her legs were healed, we didn't visit the vet.
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Every vet I've had look at a hot spot has said not to use neopsporin and not to cover it because it needs to dry out. In fact, they usually trim the hair around the hot spot to let more air in. It's caused in part by moisture so it should not be covered especially with duct tape.

How to Treat Hot Spots on Dogs | petMD

Dog Skin Care: Controlling Itchy Hot Spots - How to Prevent Acute Dermatitis

If changing the diet helped, it sounds like the underlying issue was allergies which is why I said the OP needs to figure out what's causing the problem.
Yeah, I read all that, so we did dressing changes and airing the wound out. A cone is a better idea.
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Old 04-15-2017, 08:26 AM
 
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My previous dog had terrible allergies and only steroids helped. Obviously, that was not a solution so we had the skin test done and started him on the injections. It made a massive difference to his quality of life. The change was really quite dramatic. He occasionally had a breakout (pollen season) but all in all, he was a different dog. With my dog now, I always give him a quick wipe him down (especially his feet) when he comes in during pollen season and I do think it helps. I also start him on Benedryl. I didn't know to do that before.
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Old 04-15-2017, 09:36 AM
 
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My dog has been gnawing at one of his paws, between his toes and when it started sounding especially slurpy, I took a look at it and saw that he had gnawed on it down to the flesh.

He's had a history of hot spots. Whenever we take him to the vet they prescribe some sort of antibiotics, and I think steroids too? They also say to use a cone around his neck to prevent further gnawing. Sometimes they also suggest wrapping the affected paw in some bandage or a sock, and spray some sort of edible but bad tasting spray on it to deter him from wanting to gnaw at it and lick it.

It gets costly, and I'm not sure I'm comfortable always going to antibiotics and steroids as part of the treatment. In part, I am worried about antibiotics no longer having much effect if he's using it too much.

So, I'm leaning towards just putting a cone around his neck AND wrapping his affected paw with a bandage and tape. The cones are somewhat flexible so it's still possible for him to get at his paw, although more difficult. That's why I'm thinking I should also apply the bandage. Then I'd give it a week or two and allow it to heal.

Does anyone have any advice or feedback?
Our dog just chewed off any bandage or wrap around his paw, and he screamed so long about the cone that I took it off and let him pester his foot. He had worn a cone before, but one night he just hit his limit for wearing one and went nuts. Washing, soaking the paws, and then applying antifungal ointment on it provided relief for a few days or so. But inevitably, he would start chewing the foot again. I read that the excess licking releases some sort of feelgood response in the dog's brain, so it becomes a vicious cycle. Licking makes the dog feel better, then the paw stays wet and full of germs, becomes itchy, leads to more licking, etc.

Yes, it and assorted other problems got expensive, and we had barely begun to make the vet's boat payments...er, "exhaust all possibilities," aka make the owner go bankrupt.

If you have not yet tried both the paw wrap AND the cone together, do it. You already have the materials, and doing so does not involve a vet. It is worth trying, even though in our case it didn't work. Just be sure to wash and dry the paw before wrapping it.
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Old 04-15-2017, 07:39 PM
 
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If you think it's frito paws (yeast) - some people soak the paw in apple cider vinegar.
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Old 04-16-2017, 01:08 PM
 
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Your dog may have allergies. Tavist (Walhist) is a medication that dogs can take for itchy skin.

DO NOT give them Tavist-D, which will kill them.
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Old 04-16-2017, 04:32 PM
 
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Our dog has an allergy also but we haven't figured out the source. He gets swelling between his paw pads which he licks. The first time his whole leg got infected and we had to give him antibiotics.

Our vet recommended to treat it we give his paw a 10 min. soak in warm epsom salt water (read the label to make sure there is nothing else in the box except epsom salts - many have a bunch of other stuff) and rinse with clear water. We once treated an ulcerating infection on his paw by putting medihoney gel on it when the antibiotics appeared to be doing nothing. This cleared it up in 3 days. Now if it has been licked raw we put the medihoney gel on it as a preventative. He then spends the night in his zen cone so he can't lick the medihoney off. Because the medihoney can burn a bit after the epsom salt soak and rinse we put Band Aid brand antiseptic which has a little lidocane in it to numb it.

By following the above we can usually get it to heal and it doesn't get infected.

When he has been licking alot we get alot less licking if we give him a bath in Aroma Paws Hot Spot shampoo which seems to calm things down and then we treat the paw with the above to heal it up.
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Old 04-16-2017, 04:49 PM
 
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I think it's allergies too. Usually it's to a food, often because there's grain in their dog food. But they can be allergic to anything.

My dog often gets hot spots in the fall. I think could be from some sort of a fly or other bug that bites him and gets it started but it's really hard to know. The rest of the year he's fine as long as he is grain-free.

Last fall I trimmed the fur around the spots and used hydrogen peroxide. I don't remember if that had much effect but I also used baby powder to dry it up. The spots are damp and moist so you don't cover it and the powder can help dry it up.

There's something with a funny name--Anti Monkey Butt Powder! I got some and it seemed to help. I also took him off his canned food and just fed him the dry stuff. He eats Beyond dog food with no grain. Then I made him some treats from cooked sweet potato and chickpea flour (no grain flour) with a little bit of peanut butter. That gave him something extra tastey to eat.

When winter came and there were no more flies to bite him, the hot spots vanished completely. It's horrible to see your dog suffer like that and chew his fur off.
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Old 04-17-2017, 08:12 AM
 
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Sounds like allergies to me. Sulodene has good results. It's a oily yellow liquid that must have a bitter taste. Dogs don't normally lick it. You can even buy it in some grocery stores.




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Old 04-17-2017, 11:06 PM
 
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My previous dog had terrible allergies and only steroids helped. Obviously, that was not a solution so we had the skin test done and started him on the injections. It made a massive difference to his quality of life. The change was really quite dramatic. He occasionally had a breakout (pollen season) but all in all, he was a different dog. With my dog now, I always give him a quick wipe him down (especially his feet) when he comes in during pollen season and I do think it helps. I also start him on Benedryl. I didn't know to do that before.
did you take your dog to a pet skin specialist for the testing? what sort of injections? how much do you think the entire visit(s) and treaments cost?
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