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Old 04-10-2017, 07:59 AM
 
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My dog has been gnawing at one of his paws, between his toes and when it started sounding especially slurpy, I took a look at it and saw that he had gnawed on it down to the flesh.

He's had a history of hot spots. Whenever we take him to the vet they prescribe some sort of antibiotics, and I think steroids too? They also say to use a cone around his neck to prevent further gnawing. Sometimes they also suggest wrapping the affected paw in some bandage or a sock, and spray some sort of edible but bad tasting spray on it to deter him from wanting to gnaw at it and lick it.

It gets costly, and I'm not sure I'm comfortable always going to antibiotics and steroids as part of the treatment. In part, I am worried about antibiotics no longer having much effect if he's using it too much.

So, I'm leaning towards just putting a cone around his neck AND wrapping his affected paw with a bandage and tape. The cones are somewhat flexible so it's still possible for him to get at his paw, although more difficult. That's why I'm thinking I should also apply the bandage. Then I'd give it a week or two and allow it to heal.

Does anyone have any advice or feedback?
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:36 AM
 
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My dog has been gnawing at one of his paws, between his toes and when it started sounding especially slurpy, I took a look at it and saw that he had gnawed on it down to the flesh.

He's had a history of hot spots. Whenever we take him to the vet they prescribe some sort of antibiotics, and I think steroids too? They also say to use a cone around his neck to prevent further gnawing. Sometimes they also suggest wrapping the affected paw in some bandage or a sock, and spray some sort of edible but bad tasting spray on it to deter him from wanting to gnaw at it and lick it.

It gets costly, and I'm not sure I'm comfortable always going to antibiotics and steroids as part of the treatment. In part, I am worried about antibiotics no longer having much effect if he's using it too much.

So, I'm leaning towards just putting a cone around his neck AND wrapping his affected paw with a bandage and tape. The cones are somewhat flexible so it's still possible for him to get at his paw, although more difficult. That's why I'm thinking I should also apply the bandage. Then I'd give it a week or two and allow it to heal.

Does anyone have any advice or feedback?
You need to fix the underlying cause or it will keep happening. The cone, wrapping and sprays won't do that. It sounds like he has allergies. If there is an infection he needs antibiotics. I would take him to the vet and ask them if he has an allergy issue. There are several medications to help with that. You need to figure out if it's environmental or food related or a combination of both. The hot spots could be the result of allergies too.
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Old 04-10-2017, 01:13 PM
 
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When our dog had a hot spot on each of her hind legs, she worried them, raw.

It took time but now her legs are just fine - here's what we tried (after reading many pet forums):
cleaning wound and covering it with neosporin or sometimes micronazole just in case, it was yeast, then covering the wound with gauze and duct tape -a cone would have made her go insane. We changed her diet to raw meat and Wysong dog food.

Since her legs were healed, we didn't visit the vet.
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Old 04-10-2017, 01:41 PM
 
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When our dog had a hot spot on each of her hind legs, she worried them, raw.

It took time but now her legs are just fine - here's what we tried (after reading many pet forums):
cleaning wound and covering it with neosporin or sometimes micronazole just in case, it was yeast, then covering the wound with gauze and duct tape -a cone would have made her go insane. We changed her diet to raw meat and Wysong dog food.

Since her legs were healed, we didn't visit the vet.
Every vet I've had look at a hot spot has said not to use neopsporin and not to cover it because it needs to dry out. In fact, they usually trim the hair around the hot spot to let more air in. It's caused in part by moisture so it should not be covered especially with duct tape.

How to Treat Hot Spots on Dogs | petMD

Dog Skin Care: Controlling Itchy Hot Spots - How to Prevent Acute Dermatitis

If changing the diet helped, it sounds like the underlying issue was allergies which is why I said the OP needs to figure out what's causing the problem.
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Old 04-10-2017, 02:38 PM
 
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you also might try after your dog heals and change her diet add an oral immune supplement vibactin is what I use with my older dogs and they are so chipper after a week -7 days . and it keeps them healthy .
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Old 04-14-2017, 09:50 AM
 
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You need to fix the underlying cause or it will keep happening. The cone, wrapping and sprays won't do that. It sounds like he has allergies. If there is an infection he needs antibiotics. I would take him to the vet and ask them if he has an allergy issue. There are several medications to help with that. You need to figure out if it's environmental or food related or a combination of both. The hot spots could be the result of allergies too.
Our dog--older min schnauzer--had horrific problem with allergies--part of which including gastro problems but also skin problems...that went on in various guises for most of her life until most severe episode about 2 yrs ago that involved horrible itching that only severe steroid program could control...until we finally realized chicken was likely culprit...

She has been through several different foods, meds from the vet, is on long term anti-itch med Apoquel, and now has started showing some signs of recurrence of allergie symptoms--
More licking her paws---couple of what are probably yeast spots on her back...

I am coming to the realization that her "allergy issues" are likely from yeast problems...
I am no expert but dogs are meant to be meat eaters---
Their entire system is built on that as diet--
Most dog foods are not meat-only....
They involved other foods dogs might eat but are not really meant for them...
No dog can plant, harvest, and eat foods like wheat, oats, potatoes, carrots, blueberries or create additives like vitamins and mineral...
They are SUPPOSED to eat a raw food diet of protein---but that can be expensive which is why dog food mfg use other ingredients and try to present that as a positive for the dogs' diet change---
Whether or not they WILL eat other things like cookies, dry dog food, pnut butter---
That is all about the HUMAN factor in choosing food for pets...

I am coming to the realization that my dog probably needs to eat a more basic--protein only--diet because even the "RX" food she is on for her allergies likely has too many carb factors which lead to yeast infection...
Plus I have been giving her too many "treats" which have flour and other carbs...

I suggest you try to find a natural/holistic type of pet food store in your area--
I give my dog a pro/prebiotic additive daily which is supposed to help her natural gut action
And those types of stores usually have personal experience with dogs that have other food/allergy issues
Most vets are just trained to use responses that come from big Pharma for pets and big companies that push their food products---steroids, antibiotics (which can CAUSE yeast issues just like in humans), and basically treat the symptom of what is larger problem...
It took me a long time to convince vets (including a skin/allergy specialist) that our dog had allergy to chicken
Which is endemic in most dog foods/treats because it is a cheap protein...
Right now she is on RX dog food w/rabbit and sweet potatoes---and other ingredients--
in part because of the protein not being Chicken but also because it is supposed to be MFG w/o any cross-contamination w/chicken...but think it has more carbs than needed...

There are natural ingredients you can use to help w/topical relief for your dog...
Try to avoid steroids because they often damage the immune system
Google up the use of anti-fungal natural ingredients like vinegar or hydrogen peroxide or iodine--diluted and used to treat hot spots/itchy feet/itchy ears...

I am trying to find a good recipe book for dog food
I am reluctant to try commercial made--even "specialty" made foods because of the contamination with chicken that might happen...
It takes very little chicken to set my dog to itching again...
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Old 04-14-2017, 07:35 PM
 
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Hot spots, and/or rashes are usually caused by some type of allergy.
Food allergy is usually the cause.

That can turn out to be a nightmare when trying to find what food the pet is allergic too.
My gsd has been going through a food allergy for some time now, with rashes breaking out on his underside, and between the paws.
Steroids help, but are dangerous, and could not be given often.

The vet suggested many dogs have an allergic response to chicken.
I was feeding him a diet of canned, which contained chicken, and dry, (same brand) that also contained chicken.
Unfortunately chicken was not his only allergy.
Pumpkin was also responsible, and the dry food contained pumpkin.

It took a long time, many trips to the vet, and countless hours researching food that I could give him.
The biggest problem is, 99.99.99% of ALL dog food, canned, or dry, contain some form of chicken, even if the label states it's beef, or lamb.
Finally hit on a food from "whole earth" that absolutely contains no poultry, in both dry, and canned.

He has only been on it for a few days, so we will see how his system reacts to it.
It is high quality food, and highly rated by those who rate dog foods, one of the best foods available, and at a reasonable price.

I am just glad I finally found something that contains no poultry or pumpkin.

In my search, I came across a blue buffalo product that on the write up of the dry food stated, "absolutely no chicken or poultry byproducts in this food", while on the bag itself, it stated chicken byproducts, and chicken meal.

I called the company, and they stated they will remove the section of the paragraph that states absolutely no chicken or poultry byproducts.
I really did my homework with this food investigation, and I am hopeful this "new " food will be the one I can settle on permanently.

So to the op, you would be wise to investigate what is in the food you are feeding your pet.
Chances are the dog has an allergy to what he/she is eating.
Many dogs have an allergy to chicken, and hot spots between the paws, is a good indication that something in the food is causing it.

Bob.
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Old 04-14-2017, 10:47 PM
 
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Apoquel--tablet--has given our dog back the ability to enjoy life and not itch 24/7
There are stories that it causes tumors and other side effects but there is no real scientific study to prove damaging side effects
In our dog's case she was so miserable before she went on the Apoquel that it was present torture or future complications--
We decided to go with the RX--it is not cheap but our dog takes just 1 a day because of her weight--she is only 20 lbs...

You can try things like Provident Iodine/Betadyne---mix with water to shade of ice tea and sponge on your dog's itchy spots -- can even make a "foot bath" and soak dog's feet in solution for 2-5 min to help with any topical yeast
You can also Google for hydrogen peroxide and vinegar mixture as topical application/foot bath...
It is possible your dog might have "mites" which burrow into the skin -- not allergy--
And other medication
In my perspective steroids can help contain itching but they also can cause legacy problems after they are finished...so I would try other options before going on steroids or antibiotics...
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Old 04-15-2017, 05:21 AM
 
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Agree with Rowan that you need to resolve the underlying issue that is causing your pup to feel itchy or uncomfortable.

My first suggestion would be to put on a prepared raw diet; however, since most people don't want to do that, then try a high quality limited-ingredient food like Instinct or Natural Balance.

You may see an immediate change in your dog's itchiness, but more likely that it will take 4-6 weeks for his body to respond to the new food.
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Old 04-15-2017, 06:27 AM
 
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Agree with all the above about changing the food. We use Zignature specifically because it is a premium food with limited ingredients and NO chicken or dairy.

Also, everything I have ever read and heard about hotspots is it has to dry out so wrapping it would not be a good idea.

Vetericyn or NuStock, both work very well on Hotspots.

We had a problem with our dachshund and cones. With that long body of his, he could reach around to his back leg so we bought a large one with the most depth. It was lethal if you got in his way and he bumped into things at first but it was the only way!

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