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Old 03-19-2008, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Nothing could be finer... I'm in S. Carolina!!
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Sean - too funny! I got it!

Thanks Takeahike!

Thank you so much Ling,Ling - your suggestions are great and we will definitely put that into practice. I'll try to find a brave soul who wouldn't mind possibly being snapped at to teach her.

nanwalt3 - thanks for sharing your story about your dog. it's so sad what dogs go through before they get into our homes. i just wish they could forget all the bad!

thanks EVERYONE!!!
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:15 PM
 
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One more important point. When you walk her, make sure that your dog doesn't walk ahead of you. This way, you will be able to control the situation before she goes into a protective mode. Your dog can walk in a heel position.
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Old 05-26-2009, 06:22 AM
 
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Hi, your dog is doing normal dog things where there is anxiety and a lack of training. You really must take her to basic obedience where you will learn how to relax her, how to position yourself as "top dog" which will give her you as pack leader to look to. You will learn stuff like NOT to keep her on a tight lead as that encourages aggressiveness, you will learn how to refocus her attention on you before a situation arises...so many things. You will help to socialise her in obedience class, it will be the best thing you ever did! best of luck - if you do this you will succeed and she will become a reliable and stable animal.
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Old 05-26-2009, 08:32 AM
 
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Hi, your dog is doing normal dog things where there is anxiety and a lack of training. You really must take her to basic obedience where you will learn how to relax her, how to position yourself as "top dog" which will give her you as pack leader to look to. You will learn stuff like NOT to keep her on a tight lead as that encourages aggressiveness, you will learn how to refocus her attention on you before a situation arises...so many things. You will help to socialise her in obedience class, it will be the best thing you ever did! best of luck - if you do this you will succeed and she will become a reliable and stable animal.
This is utter nonsense. This dog has been abused and mistreated. NO dog thinks a ball is being thrown AT it unless that's something that's actually happened.

Cesar Milan and his awful techniques are NOT the way to go with this little one, who is very fearful, indeed. Your trainer, who should be someone who uses ONLY POSITIVE METHODS, should be able to work with you on this.
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Old 05-26-2009, 10:15 AM
 
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I definitely say you get someone good [WITH REFERENCES] work with you as it can be complex but celticzebra is right in saying that cinching up on the lead encourages agression because the dog is either fight or flight with fear and you have taken away the flight option.

But clearly the dog does have some problems and with JRT mix I think you need someone with experience in particularl with terriers. Without actually seeing you and your dog and what is going on, I think it would be hard to diagnose over the interent.
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Mostly in my head
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I agree with ViralMD, this dopg ws abused physically. She is afraid of men b/c a man beat her. If BarkBusters is in your area, that is another option for training. Well, training you. (www.barkbusters.com) This is an international company that relies on positive reinforcement and will teach you some basic dog psychology. They helped a lot with my adopted pitt bull who is stronger than I am.They are expensive but they come to your house and will come as long as the dog is alive, to work on new issues or touch up old ones. Good luck!
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Sorry, nobody will agree on this pup, not even two trainers or even behaviorists will agree. This pup is insecure and will be greatly relieved when you step in as the leader of her little pack. That doesn't mean you have to get physical or mean, just let her know that you are the leader. A lot of people think that when they get a dog that was abused, they can't correct bad behavior, the dog will hate me, be more nervous, never come around..... Not showing authority to a dog that is already shaky, nervous, insecure will almost assuredly lead to behavior problems.

You didn't mention what corrections you did give this pup. I honestly think that enrolling this dog in an agility class will not only give this dog a lot of socialization with dogs and people, it will teach her positive reinforcement and focus. Nervous and shy dogs almost always make incredible improvement in agility.

Trashing Cesar Millan is not going to help people. He is trying to make owners understand that a dog is totally ok with someone else being the alpha, and that doesn't mean beating your dog. Making a 'tcht' sound and poking your dog on the shoulder isn't abusing a dog, nor is an alpha roll. Nor is making your dog walk beside you, letting you out the door first, or making a dog wait to eat until you say ok. He totally gets why Americans have by far the most unruly dogs, because we want to treat them as an over-indulged child and dress them in Chanel & Louis Vuitton and let them lay on every couch and bed even though they won't listen and try to bite. It's fine to 'LOVE' them as if they were a child/human, but to treat them as if they were human is like treating a cow that way, or a monkey or a bird. You don't expect those species to act human. They are still their own species and when you humanize them, you 'can' unintentionally cause unwanted behaviors to surface. They can be extremely smart for their species and seem to act human, but they are what they are. I swear my schnauzer can read my mind, but in reality she is dang great at reading anyone's body language and facial expressions.

If someone has a training style that is more your style, recommend it, but don't go bashing someone that has actually had extensive education in dog behavior, and it validated what he had learned growing up. I think he does well for what he does, but he isn't for everyone. I groom a lot of dogs that were pretty ungroomable/unmanageable and I use a huge mix of a lot of different training methods....his 'tcht', Victoria Stilwell's 'ah-ah', food rewards, etc. and I don't groom with any restraints and the dogs (and cats, too) end up fantastic to groom after a few short visits. The main thing is what the animal knows to expect, affection shown, and training IS going on (despite who's method).
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Old 06-09-2009, 06:57 AM
 
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This is utter nonsense. This dog has been abused and mistreated. NO dog thinks a ball is being thrown AT it unless that's something that's actually happened.

Cesar Milan and his awful techniques are NOT the way to go with this little one, who is very fearful, indeed. Your trainer, who should be someone who uses ONLY POSITIVE METHODS, should be able to work with you on this.
I don't think you properly read my post Viralmd. I was saying the dog's mind is not sick, rather the dog is responding normally given that it has extreme anxiety (for what exact reasons we don't know), and that working with the dog so it comes to learn that its handler is its pack leader, what is expected of it, getting it used to different domains and situations with you there a pack leader etc. will help to give it stability. I did not mention Cesar Millan and don't know enough about his methods to do so. I would always only support positive methods - positive reinforcement of the behaviour you want, ignore the behaviour you don't want. Get a great trainer or dog club to work with. Good luck all
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:41 PM
 
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Hi! I found your pot after googling "psychiatry for dogs". I was wondering what kind of results you had from the animal behaviorist. My dog's story is different than Lucy's- three weeks ago, Tyra was attacked by a dog while we were on a walk. It was horrible and traumatic and while her physical wounds have healed, her mental anguish seems to be continuing. Now that we can take her to the park on a run and to the dog park, she is uncharacteristically afraid of all other dogs (especially black dogs). I don't know what to do and haven't found a lot of information on this topic. I appreciate any information you can give me! And I hope Lucy has improved! Thanks!
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Old 08-08-2012, 05:22 AM
 
Location: Manhattan, Ks
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Poor Tyra. I don't know if you've seen this, but here's a link to the website for certified veterinary behaviorists. If you can find a good trainer, they may be able to help you and Tyra, but since there aren't any national standards to call yourself a dog trainer they can be pretty hit and miss. Good luck to you, I hope you find some good help for her!
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