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Old 05-09-2008, 09:42 PM
Location: West Virginia
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Well your contract may say that you must return him...not pass him on. As for housetrained...seems hes got your number. & you said he pees on the bed! If hes choking himself then You are not 1 putting it on correctly or 2 not using it right. collars go on like a sideways P with him on your left & pop and release not pull.
Seems to me You need the training too ... So pick a class where they teach you to train him... Stick with him hes just a puppy. Is there a trainer or class near you? Check out the AKC.ORG or UKCDOG.COM web sites for clubs & classes near you.
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:48 PM
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Dog Obedience Training, Dog Agility Training, Puppy Obedience, Dog Daycare, Atlanta , Georgia , GA
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Old 05-09-2008, 10:04 PM
Location: Texas
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I'm always envious when I read how well crating works. I've never had a dog who took to it and have felt like a failure! I always wanted a doggy who would eventually love to curl up contentedly in his own den, sigh.

Funny (now!) stories: When my younger collie was a baby, he was a pistol, so I decided I needed to crate train him. It was fine when we were home but the very first time I left him in the crate when we weren't home, he managed to bend the metal bars enough to get his snout out, MOVE the crate so it was right next to my brand new sofa, and CHEW the upholstery and side of the armrest off. I was horrified! I then bought a mostly plastic crate and that wound up in little bits all over the family room.

This dog also managed to bend and escape from a steel bar door at the kennel we used. The kennel owners were friends of mine and told me that in all of their years of business, serving some VERY large and powerful dogs, NO dog before mine had managed to bend and break one of their doors! Luckily, they were well insured!

No crate, no pen can contain Oliver. He also figured out very quickly how to open the gate latch and the storm door on the house. I've had to beef up and change out latches! But it really doesn't matter because he will not chew or disrupt anything in the house while I'm gone. He would counter-surf, LOL, but I'm not dumb enough to leave out anything that could possibly be edible.

Now, I have Morgan, the Weimaraner, who loves her mummy so much she couldn't stand to be separated from her at all, at first. I went to Tractor Supply and bought a huge, heavy-duty, God knows what gauge metal crate. Days before I needed to take a day trip, I set up the crate and tempted her inside with food and toys now and then so she'd get used to it. I thought this would be a piece of cake!

In she went right before we left, with her favorite blanky, toys, and treats. And guess who greeted us at the door when we returned, about 8 hours later? The grey ghost herself, with a very pleased look on her face. I inspected the crate -- she had bent the bars, opened the latch, and collapsed the door. Happily, though, there was nothing chewed up and no messes in the house. I returned the crate so Tractor Supply the next day, indignantly insisting that if their "heavy duty" product couldn't handle one dog for one day, I needed my money back. They gave me the refund.

The moral of this story is if you fail crate training, you're not alone and your dog isn't defective. It works for some but doesn't work for others.
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Old 05-10-2008, 06:20 AM
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I can sympathize with you as I have a JR who I am not so sure is full blooded but that is another story. He would actually choke (one time he almost passed out) himself if a car, motorcycle, or bike passed us on a walk.

I agree with the obedience training. Harley would go 'nuts' when I put him in a crate. Housetraining seemed to take forever..

I took him to PetSmart and actually got a couple of private lessons along with the group lessons. I started taking him on LONG walks twice a day, we walked a good pace and he wasn't allowed to stop along the way until we got close to home on the return walk. You may not have as much time as I did, but walking on a leash even a short walk will him
That along with the lessons worked wonders with him.

Good luck.
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:15 AM
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Oh my gosh, I have the same situation, with a JRT mix, also. I've only had her since last Sunday. She's 2 years old, barky, TOTALLY untrained and unhousebroken. Well, she was. The heavens must have been smiling down on me because my neighbor, who I don't know very well, has volunteered to help me train her. She now walks very nicely on the leash, knows "sit", learned the doggie door, and as of Thursday night, has been letting herself out to do her business. She's not at 100% of these behaviors, but she's very close.

Yes, training would be the answer. Not only for the dog, but for you. My neighbor trained me to train my dog. She's been with me every evening this week, and this has helped to curtail her barking and her behavior overall has much improved. The dog knows she's not the boss, and she is respecting me as the leader.

Yes, I think training is the answer.
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:42 AM
Location: Tennessee
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Thanks everyone!
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:49 AM
Location: MA/NH
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I would never own a Jack Russell terrier. They are too high energy and have a reputation for being escape artists. They also have an aggressive streak in them. I suspect that your dog needs to be exercised hard every day. Setting up an agility course in your yard might help. You need to give him a job to do and running him through an agility course might help. Have you tried a choke collar on him yet?

Also, find a local Jack Russell group to join and they can help you out in better ways than we can.
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Old 05-10-2008, 02:00 PM
Location: Tennessee
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No, no choke collar, but we need to get one. We just have a plain ol` leash we put on him for walks, but like I said, its not working.
I have wrote out an ad two diffrent times, after I found out that he was peeing on my bedspread.. to find him a home, but never put it in.
Along with the fact that he isn`t really the "family dog" type.
I wish sometimes, that I never saw his cute little face behind that cage in the pound. I wasn`t thinking ahead, about his bread, and his personality.
I know thats my fault, so we will learn to live with it, I guess.
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Old 05-10-2008, 02:12 PM
Location: MA/NH
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It's also that tv show Fraser's fault. lol. Those dogs are very cute, but a handful to own. Terriers are stubborn and they seem to be more stubborn that the average terrier. My current terrier mix is a Scotty/Schnauzer mix and I love her so much! Fortunately, she is housebroken, but she's always trying to sneak away to check out our neighbors' yards. The woman I adopted her from told me that she likes to visit one house over on each side. Then if she succeeds is getting away, she is equally stealthy on her way home. If I see her coming in, she walks lower to the ground and hunches her shoulders. Even her ears are lowered. So she clearly knows she's being bad. But what a great personality she has!
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Old 05-10-2008, 02:14 PM
Location: MA/NH
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Also, all dogs get better with age. That's why I will never get another puppy or young dog. Over the age of 5 years, dogs start getting mellower, less hyper and less willful. At the age of 7, most are perfect companions. At least that's been my luck with my rescued dogs. I also greatly prefer spayed females to neutered males. Less peeing on things in the yard.
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