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Old 09-27-2008, 05:47 AM
 
Location: in purgurtory in London
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Exactly. Or what if someone goes to the church with a service dog? That lady needs a wakeup call before someone or someone's animal gets hurt!
Yup.
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Old 09-27-2008, 09:05 AM
 
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If she is poor and has no fencing and/or has disability so cannot walk her dogs, (or any number of things), when the dogs have to 'go' (outside) maybe a suggestion of a cable and offer some help or find help to string it up might be neighborly. Perhaps no one has offered before.

It is unfortunate that not all dog owners can live up to the standards expected any more, but being helpful is often appreciated.
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Old 09-27-2008, 09:09 AM
 
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If she is poor and has no fencing and/or has disability so cannot walk her dogs, (or any number of things), when the dogs have to 'go' (outside) maybe a suggestion of a cable and offer some help or find help to string it up might be neighborly. Perhaps no one has offered before.

It is unfortunate that not all dog owners can live up to the standards expected any more, but being helpful is often appreciated.
I'm pretty sure neither is the case. It's a decent-sized plot of land in a fairly decent part of town, and she herself came out and after speaking to me, got in a car to go somewhere. She doesn't live alone either. So I'm pretty sure she's not poor or disabled.
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Old 09-27-2008, 09:17 AM
 
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Thanks vemureaux. I guess the only way to know why she chooses her version of responsible freedom (and not the right responsible choices IMO) is to ask her. Where I live, it's not even legal to exercise a dog in public if it's not a dog park and there are too few of those, and frankly dog parks are not really ideal for all dogs and the people that have them. (edits: me needs coffee...!)
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Old 09-27-2008, 11:15 AM
 
Location: "The Sunshine State"
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I would report her for being an unresposible pet owner. For now, you should not risk the life of your pup....take him elsewhere!
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Old 09-27-2008, 01:01 PM
 
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No matter where you decide to take your dog you may find a similar situation and one without warning. I strongly urge you to purchase and carry pepper spray and to consider a stun device. If you think this is cruel check out your local mail carrier.
I remember reading about a senior woman walking her small terrier and attacked by a larger dog, (not mentioning the breed). The small dog was killed and the woman was then attacked she had to bite her attacker to get away. A $10 can of pepper spray would have prevented this tragedy.
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Old 09-27-2008, 02:48 PM
 
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No matter where you decide to take your dog you may find a similar situation and one without warning. I strongly urge you to purchase and carry pepper spray and to consider a stun device. If you think this is cruel check out your local mail carrier.
I remember reading about a senior woman walking her small terrier and attacked by a larger dog, (not mentioning the breed). The small dog was killed and the woman was then attacked she had to bite her attacker to get away. A $10 can of pepper spray would have prevented this tragedy.
Don
I have regular anti-perv pepper spray that I carry in my purse when going out (it says military strength )... will that work against dogs? Otherwise, I've seen pepper spray at Petsmart as well.

I've always been tempted by these protection devices, but here's my concern. It may work on dogs that are showing aggression but not 100% determined, but if we're talking about an unbalanced dog that is hell bent on attacking and killing you (or your dog), wouldn't spraying or stunning it just further enrage it?
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Old 09-27-2008, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Deep in the Heart of Texas
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I have regular anti-perv pepper spray that I carry in my purse when going out (it says military strength )... will that work against dogs? Otherwise, I've seen pepper spray at Petsmart as well.

I've always been tempted by these protection devices, but here's my concern. It may work on dogs that are showing aggression but not 100% determined, but if we're talking about an unbalanced dog that is hell bent on attacking and killing you (or your dog), wouldn't spraying or stunning it just further enrage it?
The pepper spray for dogs is supposedly a different formulation from that intended for use on people. There is also a pepper spray formulation made for repelling bears! Anyway, pepper spray doesn't always act immediately. It may take a few seconds for the dog-or person-to feel the effect, so the distance that you are from the dog could be tricky. If it is windy the spray can blow back at you and that's a problem too. However, a spray will work if you're attacked by multiple dogs, and a dog prod would be hard to use in that situation. The downside to all of these is that you have to be able to handle your own dog/s at the same time that you're defending them-and you-against an attacking dog. That's the hard part.
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Old 09-27-2008, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Jax
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Do I even have a case or a valid complaint, though, since it's not like anything happened and I didn't catch her in the act, so to speak, of letting her dogs roam? It's all hearsay at this point, albeit from her.
The laws are different everywhere, but in my city it only takes 2 adults witnessing a loose dog for the owner to be ticketed. I think the first ticket is a warning, the next is a fine and it escalates from there (their dogs can eventually be taken).

You'll have to see what the laws are in your city, the police will be able to inform you, just contact them as a non-emergency and they'll let you know.
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Old 09-27-2008, 10:18 PM
 
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The pepper spray for dogs is supposedly a different formulation from that intended for use on people. There is also a pepper spray formulation made for repelling bears! Anyway, pepper spray doesn't always act immediately. It may take a few seconds for the dog-or person-to feel the effect, so the distance that you are from the dog could be tricky. If it is windy the spray can blow back at you and that's a problem too. However, a spray will work if you're attacked by multiple dogs, and a dog prod would be hard to use in that situation. The downside to all of these is that you have to be able to handle your own dog/s at the same time that you're defending them-and you-against an attacking dog. That's the hard part.
Hmm... sounds like anti-dog pepper spray might be on my shopping list next time I go to PetSmart. You mentioned a dog prod... what about a mini cattle prod? I've used it on swine before, and while on some it gets them going, others it just makes them hella ornery. Should I be carrying it around with me on walks??

Thank goodness I have yet to be confronted by an aggressive dog (knock on wood!). Not sure I'd know what to do.

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The laws are different everywhere, but in my city it only takes 2 adults witnessing a loose dog for the owner to be ticketed. I think the first ticket is a warning, the next is a fine and it escalates from there (their dogs can eventually be taken).

You'll have to see what the laws are in your city, the police will be able to inform you, just contact them as a non-emergency and they'll let you know.
I didn't know this. This is great information. I'll have to see what the local laws are.

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