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Old 10-10-2008, 01:40 PM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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Big dogs have the potential to do a lot more damage than a small dog. And the thing with pit bulls that when they get mad, they are stubborn and slower to let go of their bad mood. And in some of the pit bull attack stories, there were circumstances where the pit bull would bite and not let go. Pepper spray doesn't work. And it's very disturbing if one has to pry their jaws open or shoot them to release their bite. So what if their jaws aren't any different, mentally, they have a stubborn terrier temperament. Having a pet that is all muscle is not at all appealing to me. I don't care how friendly it is most of the time.

 
Old 10-10-2008, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Jax
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I'm so proud of my GSD, It made it to the 3rd place!!

Good doggie!!
 
Old 10-10-2008, 06:09 PM
 
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Where is the most dangerous people list?
I think the person who wrote the list would be #1!
 
Old 10-10-2008, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Tejas
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Put every moron who has ever backed, signed, or brought to the table BSL to that dangerous people list.
 
Old 10-10-2008, 07:48 PM
 
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I am getting a little tired of people constantly bad mouthing Pitts, I will apologize in advance for my rant.

I raised my Pitt from a puppy and the only aggression he ever showed was when some one showed aggression to me. People bad mouth the breed for the actions of the owner, if you raise your dog to be violent it will be violent. Of course many people dont like to see it that way, they hear Pitt bull and think well that's a bad dog. We had my 3 year old nephew over one summer and he would pull on his tail and get in his face and my pup never showed one act of aggression. In fact when my nephew was out running in the ward and ran to close to the street my pup was there trying to block him. Please keep this Pitts are dangerous dogs BS, because if you raise them right they are one of the most loyal, protective and smart dogs you can have. I have also owned a Golden, and a Boxer mix. I have a 10 month old daughter and while we try to teach her to pet the dogs sometimes she gets grabby. Well one time our golden made a act like she was going to nip her, thats one more agressive gesture than my pitt has EVER shown. I am done with my rant thank you
 
Old 10-10-2008, 08:01 PM
 
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And if you just tie it in your backyard and don't ever walk it and never train it, of course it is going to end up out of control. Most dogs act the way their owners act... jerky owner = bad dog

I was snapped at once without warning by a chow/retriever mix once. And once almost bitten by a cocker spaniel - I have heard several nightmare stories about cockers turning crazy psycho because that breed is ruined through overbreeding. Too bad they are so cute. I always wanted one growing up, now I wouldn't ever get one.

Also, I was watching Cesar Milan once and he said something smart "you need to match your dog's energy" - if you are a couch potato, don't get a hunting dog. Most dog behavioral problems are from not enough exercise and not enough socialization. I know in our breed of choice: dachshund - socialization from an early age is crucial! This breed can be snappy and become very dominant if you do not become the pack leader. They need and love to be with their people.
 
Old 10-10-2008, 10:03 PM
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I am getting a little tired of people constantly bad mouthing Pitts, I will apologize in advance for my rant.

I raised my Pitt from a puppy and the only aggression he ever showed was when some one showed aggression to me. People bad mouth the breed for the actions of the owner, if you raise your dog to be violent it will be violent. Of course many people dont like to see it that way, they hear Pitt bull and think well that's a bad dog. We had my 3 year old nephew over one summer and he would pull on his tail and get in his face and my pup never showed one act of aggression. In fact when my nephew was out running in the ward and ran to close to the street my pup was there trying to block him. Please keep this Pitts are dangerous dogs BS, because if you raise them right they are one of the most loyal, protective and smart dogs you can have. I have also owned a Golden, and a Boxer mix. I have a 10 month old daughter and while we try to teach her to pet the dogs sometimes she gets grabby. Well one time our golden made a act like she was going to nip her, thats one more agressive gesture than my pitt has EVER shown. I am done with my rant thank you
I don't recall ever telling anyone that all pit bulls were bad or dangerous. However on the flip side, it's very tiresome to hear the pit bull owners wax poetic about how wonderful and friendly their dog is, or what a wonderful family dog it is or how everyone else doesn't know what they are missing by not owning a pit bull. INSTEAD, I would respect a pit bull owner a whole lot more if they could be honest and more realistic and tell other people that pits are a great dog IF they are socialized properly., well trained and treated. Because most pit bull owners seem to be constantly preaching how everyone should experience the wonderfulness of the best dog breed ever, the pit bull. And that's actually doing a grave disservice to their breed.. Never ever recommend owning a pit bull to anyone that you aren't 110% would be a responsible pit bull owner.

Sure I know that your pit bull would never willingly hurt your baby or child. However ALL dogs can get playful and like to roughhouse with their family. And a pit bull can accidentally hurt a human in play. All pit bull owners admit that their dogs are rough on their toys... and that's the same reason that they can potentially hurt your baby or child or any other creature that is less powerful than them.

Locally, someone posted on craigslist ranting that within the last month, their aunt's two pit bulls have been the victims of two misunderstandings. One dog jumped on a stranger's child, knocking it down and scratching the skin lightly. The second dog had a minor altercation with a smaller dog during a walk on a leash. Now the dogs are banned from the town. No, I don't think that these dogs did anything dangerous so far, but what immediately comes to my mind is that they aren't trained properly and that it's their owner's fault for not being able to control them. And without being trained properly, they do have the potential to cause real hurt and damage. And I would say that while I don't think her dogs should be put to sleep, she has no business owning dogs like pit bulls. I wouldn't even want her to have a smaller dog. Or maybe dog owners like that just need to keep their dogs on their property and not take them out in public. If those dogs are such love bugs in the home, let them stay there.

WIth my little dogs, if they did jump up on a child or person, they aren't going to knock them down to the ground. With my lab, well with the one that I have, he's got an extremely submissive personality. Plus I am strong enough to control him on a leash. One easy tug, and he does what I want. Put my small terrier's personality into the lab's body, and it would be trouble. Anyway for me, small dogs rock!
 
Old 10-10-2008, 10:53 PM
 
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I don't recall ever telling anyone that all pit bulls were bad or dangerous. However on the flip side, it's very tiresome to hear the pit bull owners wax poetic about how wonderful and friendly their dog is, or what a wonderful family dog it is or how everyone else doesn't know what they are missing by not owning a pit bull. INSTEAD, I would respect a pit bull owner a whole lot more if they could be honest and more realistic and tell other people that pits are a great dog IF they are socialized properly., well trained and treated. Because most pit bull owners seem to be constantly preaching how everyone should experience the wonderfulness of the best dog breed ever, the pit bull. And that's actually doing a grave disservice to their breed.. Never ever recommend owning a pit bull to anyone that you aren't 110% would be a responsible pit bull owner.

Sure I know that your pit bull would never willingly hurt your baby or child. However ALL dogs can get playful and like to roughhouse with their family. And a pit bull can accidentally hurt a human in play. All pit bull owners admit that their dogs are rough on their toys... and that's the same reason that they can potentially hurt your baby or child or any other creature that is less powerful than them.

Locally, someone posted on craigslist ranting that within the last month, their aunt's two pit bulls have been the victims of two misunderstandings. One dog jumped on a stranger's child, knocking it down and scratching the skin lightly. The second dog had a minor altercation with a smaller dog during a walk on a leash. Now the dogs are banned from the town. No, I don't think that these dogs did anything dangerous so far, but what immediately comes to my mind is that they aren't trained properly and that it's their owner's fault for not being able to control them. And without being trained properly, they do have the potential to cause real hurt and damage. And I would say that while I don't think her dogs should be put to sleep, she has no business owning dogs like pit bulls. I wouldn't even want her to have a smaller dog. Or maybe dog owners like that just need to keep their dogs on their property and not take them out in public. If those dogs are such love bugs in the home, let them stay there.

WIth my little dogs, if they did jump up on a child or person, they aren't going to knock them down to the ground. With my lab, well with the one that I have, he's got an extremely submissive personality. Plus I am strong enough to control him on a leash. One easy tug, and he does what I want. Put my small terrier's personality into the lab's body, and it would be trouble. Anyway for me, small dogs rock!
So in your world on Pits have to be socialised and other breeds dont ? Only pits are capable of knock over and hurting children ? I dont get your comments. I wouldnt tell anybody they have to own a Staff because I know its not for everybody, but then dogs in general are not for everybody.

Any dog that is not trained is dangerous, and I dont care what world people live in, that includes small dogs, labs, lassie, ANY dog that is not trained is dangerous in one way or another.

I would also like to point out that Staffordshire Bull Terriers are great with children, just check all the kennel clubs, they are the only (maybe of two not sure) breed that they state are great with children. I am sick of hearing how dangerous they are around kids. They are not.

I put my well socialised Black Lab / Golden Retriever because he hated children and people always talked about how he would be great. The only dog I would ever trust with kids is my Staff. I have seen things happen to him with my kids, and moreso the neighbors kids that he didnt seem to have a care in the world that happened to him. I took him out of the situation but I can trust that breed more than any around kids IMO.
 
Old 10-10-2008, 11:07 PM
 
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What is the most dangerous dog breed?

The untrained owned by stupid people breed.

They come in all shapes, colors and sizes and can be identified by their incessant barking, humping of the leg, jumping up even when told no, they usually have a chain attached to a tree, are usually with empty dishes, growling and slinking away from strangers. They have been known to cause serious damage and sometimes death when left alone with children. They can also be found running at large causing havoc and being the unfortunate victims of shootings, being hit by cars and poisons. This breed of dog is the most dangerous of all and unless one is a trained professional should be avoided at all costs.
 
Old 10-11-2008, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Florida
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most dangerous to me are the squirrel size ones that come outta no where and think they are big ...next are untrained ones!

ohhh and I've met alot of nice pits ...met some border collies I wouldn't ever trust. ...its relative. This is like stereotyping humans
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