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Old 10-09-2009, 11:16 AM
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We have been offered a job in Duluth. And we have not decided if it would be the right fit for us yet. I have looked at different online realtors and found a lot of houses we could live in (200 - 300,000 range). We were wondering if there are areas to stay away from? How are the schools? Our children are not in school yet but will be starting soon. Are there a lot of parks and rec activities for young families? Does the city have a mothers club? Is the city clean or cleaning up? How is driving in the city? Does the city have that small town feel? A lot of questions.. sorry! Hope someone has a few answers for us.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:40 PM
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Congratulations on the job opportunity in Duluth!

With the price range you listed, it sounds like most houses you'll be looking at are most likely going to be in the eastern neighborhoods of Duluth. Most of Duluth is relatively safe, but as with most cities, there are areas you're going to want to stay away from. Usually any neighborhood in East End (Woodland, Lakeside, Congdon, Chester Park) are a safe bet and I wouldn't have any problem walking those areas at all hours. Generally, you'll want to stay away from Central Hillside and in my opinion, most of East Hillside (basically anything before 19th Ave East can be a bit hairy at certain streets). I'm not nearly as familiar with West Duluth neighborhoods, but there are plenty of safe areas there as well. On the west side of the city, I would stay away from (at least living in) lower Lincoln Park.

Schools are a bit of a hot issue right now in Duluth. The school district (ISD 709) has been going through a huge renovation and restructuring plan. Whatever elementary school your kids end up going to, it will either be brand new or freshly remodeled. The same goes for middle and high school.

Driving in this city is both good and bad. Traffic is relatively light (except in certain touristy areas, such as Canal Park or downtown Superior St) and since I35 runs straight through the city, it's very easy to just hop on it and get to any other area (length wise). On the other hand, roads have always been a problem in Duluth and no matter where you choose to live, you will encounter some terrible streets. Very recently the city has started rectifying this problem, so things are improving. In my 22 years here I never seen this much road construction. Most major thoroughfares are being or have been redone. Even a few neighborhoods (especially Lakeside) have been getting brand new neighborhood streets.

Small town feel is a bit tricky for me, and it really depends on where you choose to live. While Duluth is a small city (population of 86,000), the city's physical size (second largest in MN) and the larger buildings downtown can sometimes throw people off. Areas of East Hillside lack that feeling of community that people associate with the "small town feel". The same goes for areas of Woodland around UMD. This is mostly due to the city's large college population. Neighborhoods like Lakeside and upper Woodland both feel like a town within a town and have most of your essentials within their limits, thus creating that small town feel.

Duluth's strongest point is probably the amount of parks we have within city limits. No matter what part of the city you choose and what neighborhood, you will have a park or a trail system close by. Check out the city's official trail/park listing here: City of Duluth Hiking Trails. Whether you're into hiking, cross country skiing, mountain biking, downhill skiing or any number of other activities, you'll have no problem finding a place to do it, and probably in your neighborhood.

For a full listing and overview of neighborhoods, check out this site: Neighborhoods in Duluth, MN | The DuSu. Lots of good information there.

Duluth has its' challenges, but usually the greatest barrier to living here is finding a job. You've already got the hard part done.

Have your ever visited here? Where are you moving from? Are you used to the cold weather of northern Minnesota?
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Old 10-09-2009, 02:44 PM
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aluminumpork - Thank you for the reply. Very good information. We will be coming from Kansas City MO, although we are originally from Sioux Falls, SD. We both enjoy a good winter and hopefully our kids will too! I personally visited about 12 years ago with family. I don't remember much of the town from then. We were there at the 4th of July and I remember the cars all stopping in the streets and the interstate to watch the display over the lake.

We are interested in living, hopefully, in one of the more older homes I have been seeing online for sale. I love that there is a large amount of homes that are like this. This factor alone is one of the big reasons of potentially moving there.

How is the downtown area. Not necessarily for living but more for typical MN towns seem to have more quaint downtowns. Is this true in Duluth as well?
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If I were to move back to Duluth (having grown up there and lived there for more than 30 years), I would definitely look at Lakeside or Congdon area first. I agree that there are nice areas all over the city, but those would be my first choices especially if you are looking at an older home.
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Old 10-09-2009, 03:53 PM
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We are interested in living, hopefully, in one of the more older homes I have been seeing online for sale. I love that there is a large amount of homes that are like this. This factor alone is one of the big reasons of potentially moving there.
There are plenty of older homes (late 1800s, earlier 1900s) just begging for a good owner to fix them up and continue to take care of them. You'll find the larger, mansion like homes primarily in Congdon and Woodland. Lakeside and upper Woodland are probably the two most traditional, middle class neighborhoods. Houses are close together in Lakeside, and most homes are smaller bungalows (albeit still some very old bungalows).

Duluth's downtown is not your quaint Minnesota downtown in most respects. Older ten to fifteen story buildings are the norm downtown and a lot of more modern development has been happening east of Lake Ave. West Duluth (Spirit Valley and Lincoln Park) both have their own downtown, which are more of what you would expect from a smaller Minnesota town.

Duluth's main downtown is in somewhat of a transition period. Many areas of downtown (places on 1st street for example) have rundown buildings and are generally not areas to have a night out. Superior St on the other hand is cleaning up very nicely. Many "nicer" bars, and trendier restaurants. Zinema 2 is an independent film theater that just opened up on Superior St, bringing the Duluth area's total screens to 22.

If you plan on visiting the city this winter, you should aim for sometime after November 27th. The Bentleyville Tour of Lights will be in full force in Bayfront Park and would make for a great night out for your family. http://www.bentleyvilleusa.org/
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Thank you fromupthere. This is very helpful. I am getting more and more excited to move there the more I look into the city. Thank you again.
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The city has over 120 city parks, some of which are only known to locals they are so small.
The city has about 40 miles of Superiror Hiking Trail that runs through it. This trail is in the top ten rated trails in the world.
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Job Opportunity in Duluth? Yeah right.

Bad streets, they are all falling apart. Very few roads are in good shape

A lot of bad old deteriorrating housing.

Small town politics in a nationally recognized large city

Not much to do in terms of recreation OTHER than outdoorsy stuff.

Bad media. The radio, news paper, and tv is a joke.



awesome views, hills, and Lake Superior are awesome and nearly make all of this better.
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Old 10-09-2009, 08:01 PM
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Job Opportunity in Duluth? Yeah right.
Well, the OP said they had been offered a job already. That's the hardest hurdle to get over.
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Old 10-10-2009, 01:13 PM
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We are very excited, regardless of the sore spots, to come and check out a city that very well may be our new home. Thank you for your input on both the negatives and the positives of Duluth. We will be making our trip to your great city in November.
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