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Old 04-28-2011, 02:07 PM
 
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My 30 year old daughter has a masters degree in hydrology. She has never worked in that field. Instead, she went to Maui after she graduated to take a break from 7 straight years of school work. While there she developed an interest in yoga. She really got into it, and became a certified yoga teacher. Five years later, she still lives on the island of Maui. When not on Maui she spends 4 months in Europe every year teaching yoga workshops to wealthy German tourists on the island of Mallorca, then off to Italy where she teaches another yoga workshop. She's not pulling in big bucks or anything like that and she lives very simply, but she enjoys her chosen lifestyle. Many people all over the planet earning 10 or more times what she earns do not have sufficient income and/or time to live a lifestyle affording this much freedom. They've go the money, the things, and all the stuff...but little or no hearfelt passion for living.

Like another poster said in a previous post..it's not about jobs. We're just hung up on that old worn out concept, unable to think in terms of living our passion rather than working a job for a living.
While I agree with your angle about living a life where you have a defined passion for whatever you pursue in life, economic or non-economic, there is a disclaimer you blew through which I think it's important to highlight. That is, that these choices are not cost-less. Put simply, your daughter can afford to do that kind of wordly "ill be where the dusk catches me" because she forewent a family. If everybody lived like your daughter there be no world to speak of to begin with. So lets recognize somebody else is doing the population replacement your daughter forewent. Which is to say, a lot of people aren't unhappily chasing the buck because the like the buck, it's simply because the kids are choking them. Quite a dichotomy, to resent your replacements (either by opting not to have them, or creating hardships because of them).
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Old 04-28-2011, 03:26 PM
 
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If everybody lived like your daughter there be no world to speak of to begin with.
I don't think we need to worry about this. Most people are not going to choose a similar lifestyle nor do they have a desire to live like her....myself included. And I imagine that she herself will tire of living in this manner within the next few years. But then again maybe not. Only time will tell. But seriously, most people would not be comfortable with her level of material simplicity. Personally, I think it would be great if more people chose to live this way at least for a few years. That could be done without having an adverse affect on population maintenance.
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Old 04-28-2011, 11:07 PM
 
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chemistry major does not equal chemical engineer major
Haven't got a clue what these folks exact degree was. Point being that enough anecdotes might equal a viable reality - re: tough job market, even for well educated, motivated individuals.
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:51 AM
 
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Point being that enough anecdotes might equal a viable reality - re: tough job market, even for well educated, motivated individuals.
Well I'm not disagreeing on the "tough job market" part, no amount of anecdotal mentions that will be generated in this forum are sufficient to make that call.

If the unemployment rate for chem eng (or whatever) isn't very high then it is what it is regardless of what poster knows whatever person that is struggling.
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:58 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Some of the news feeds are saying this morning that McDonalds received about 1 million applications, and hired about 62,000.
So much for the argument about needing illegal’s to take the jobs Americans refuse to do.
With approximately 1 million people being dropped from the unemployment rolls for exhausting their 99 weeks, it appears that any job is starting to look good to the chronically unemployed.
And yet the government continues it's lax policies about illegal immigration to the detriment of it's citizens.
Of course illegal immigration is still a benifit to the corporations like Tyson, and others who use it to keep wages suppressed and profits fat.
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Old 04-29-2011, 07:00 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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Haven't got a clue what these folks exact degree was. Point being that enough anecdotes might equal a viable reality - re: tough job market, even for well educated, motivated individuals.
it's a tough job market, no doubt. but simply look at unemployment stats for those with college degrees. it's somewhere around 5-5.5%.
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Old 04-29-2011, 12:06 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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it's a tough job market, no doubt. but simply look at unemployment stats for those with college degrees. it's somewhere around 5-5.5%.
It is double that for new college graduates which puts them at about the same level as people in the 25+ age bracket with a HS diploma.
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Old 04-29-2011, 12:11 PM
 
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Some of the news feeds are saying this morning that McDonald's received about 1 million applications, and hired about 62,000.
So much for the argument about needing illegal’s to take the jobs Americans refuse to do.
With approximately 1 million people being dropped from the unemployment rolls for exhausting their 99 weeks, it appears that any job is starting to look good to the chronically unemployed.
And yet the government continues it's lax policies about illegal immigration to the detriment of it's citizens.
Of course illegal immigration is still a benefit to the corporations like Tyson, and others who use it to keep wages suppressed and profits fat.
It's Harder To Get A Job At McDonald's Than It Is To Get Into Harvard
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Old 04-29-2011, 12:12 PM
 
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it's a tough job market, no doubt. but simply look at unemployment stats for those with college degrees. it's somewhere around 5-5.5%.
Don't worry, they will be next...
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Old 04-29-2011, 01:15 PM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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It is double that for new college graduates which puts them at about the same level as people in the 25+ age bracket with a HS diploma.
care to get an actual number to support double that?

unemployment for new college graduates under 25 as of April, 2010 was 8%. in April, 2009 it was 6.8%. In April, 2007 it was 3.7%.

still, every number above is better than unemployment for the general population.

but thanks for your shoddy math.

having a college degree in this economy means you are better off than those without one. plain and simple FACT

unemployment for under 25 without colllege as of April, 2010...24.5%

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