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View Poll Results: Will the debt cieling be raised on or before Aug 2?
Yes, cieling will be raised by some dubious last minute agreement and the government's spending recklessness will continue as usual... 58 77.33%
No agreement will be reached and the US will default 17 22.67%
Voters: 75. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-16-2011, 06:03 PM
 
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you can put all the smiley faces you want into a post, i know you liberals are very worried about how much power the tea party currently has and then will have after the 2012 election.
Look, Sun-Tzu advised if you know yourself but not your enemy, you will lose half your battles. If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will lose all your battles. At best you are only the first case.

You do not understand your opponents at best, and more likely do not understand yourselves, if you think yourself "Conservative." More likely you are Corporate Tools, rather than the Great Patriots your circle-jerk leaders tell you.

You and the Liberals are the same -- clueless, ineffective, reactionaries. The best you can do is to stir things up, but more likely merely crash them.

It is the Radical Middle -- when you get US -- the otherwise Passive Middle -- stirred off our collective butts -- that is when you will face an opponent that will wipe out your Tea Party and the childish, stomp your feet, and cry aloud routines.

So keep it up. Crash the economy.

The ire that the bankers and corporations ducked will be visited upon you.
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Old 07-16-2011, 07:01 PM
 
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It is the Radical Middle -- when you get US -- the otherwise Passive Middle -- stirred off our collective butts -- that is when you will face an opponent that will wipe out your Tea Party and the childish, stomp your feet, and cry aloud routines.
the tea party is the silent majority. you are the radical left.
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Old 07-17-2011, 06:49 PM
 
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This is all bluster, they will work a deal one way or another. You see, both sides are terrified of getting blamed if there is no deal, they will make it happen. The most important thing bor BOH sides is staying in power, that trumps all.
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Old 07-17-2011, 08:43 PM
 
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the tea party is the silent majority. you are the radical left.
Silent Majority? Sounds like the return of Nixon speechwriter, Pat Buchanan.

But overall, Comical. Your reading of the map is what makes clear your confusion on the positions.

Here is the real map of the land. Most Americans are Not Democrats nor "liberal" whatever that means. Most Americans are Not Republicans nor "conservative" for whatever your great truth-teller Rush Limbaugh has told you that means.

The Tea Party is a wacky-noodle subset of the Republicans -- which makes you a Second-Order Minority. Silent or otherwise, your Tea Party is a pack of nutcase Minority. Sorry, check the numbers. Even the legit Corporate Republicans only use you and shun you.
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Old 07-17-2011, 08:48 PM
 
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Silent Majority? Sounds like the return of Nixon speechwriter, Pat Buchanan.

But overall, Comical. Your reading of the map is what makes clear your confusion on the positions.

Here is the real map of the land. Most Americans are Not Democrats nor "liberal" whatever that means. Most Americans are Not Republicans nor "conservative" for whatever your great truth-teller Rush Limbaugh has told you that means.

The Tea Party is a wacky-noodle subset of the Republicans -- which makes you a Second-Order Minority. Silent or otherwise, your Tea Party is a pack of nutcase Minority. Sorry, check the numbers. Even the legit Corporate Republicans only use you and shun you.

Both parties are insane, look at the mess this country has become. I wish the worst for both the Republirats and Demorats.
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Old 07-17-2011, 09:08 PM
 
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Both parties are insane, look at the mess this country has become. I wish the worst for both the Republirats and Demorats.
And instead they are bringing the worst upon US.

They both make me think of Germany and the Nazi party, and Russia and Communist Party.

Most Germans were not members of the Nazi Party, and most Russians were not members of the Communist Party.

But both Most Germans and Most Russians suffered because of them.
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Old 07-17-2011, 09:58 PM
 
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the tea party is the silent majority. you are the radical left.
A mere 18% of Americans associate themselves with the Tea Party, and most of that 18% vote Republican. The Tea Party is a minority rag tag group that espouses division instead of compromise. Tea Party-backed candidates in the GOP will be held accountable by the voters if failure to raise the debt ceiling sends us into a second recession.

The vast majority of Americans are centrists fiscally and lean slightly to the left on social issues, especially younger generations.
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Old 07-17-2011, 09:58 PM
 
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And instead they are bringing the worst upon US.

They both make me think of Germany and the Nazi party, and Russia and Communist Party.

Most Germans were not members of the Nazi Party, and most Russians were not members of the Communist Party.

But both Most Germans and Most Russians suffered because of them.
You are right about that, I have read that most Germans would snicker at snortle at the nut that was Herr Schiklgruber. But they suffered horribly for his mad quest. Kinda like the average American who is trapped in a country run by the insane parties of the D and R.
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:45 AM
 
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Is it a coincidence that Europe is dealing with the same financial titanic as the US?

Nope.

This is a resource play. Based on Population growth discomfort felt by the global elite.

If you can't make laws around global warming bs, then you collapse the demand side by turning of the flow of cash.

We are in a designed decline, which will leave millions dead in the short run. Billions in the long term.

Builderbergs would like to see the earth shed 2 billion by 2020.

Enjoy the fall.
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Old 07-18-2011, 09:29 AM
 
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A mere 18% of Americans associate themselves with the Tea Party, and most of that 18% vote Republican. The Tea Party is a minority rag tag group that espouses division instead of compromise. Tea Party-backed candidates in the GOP will be held accountable by the voters if failure to raise the debt ceiling sends us into a second recession.

The vast majority of Americans are centrists fiscally and lean slightly to the left on social issues, especially younger generations.
the voters want cut cap and balance because they feel that (like every individual) the government should be able to produce a balanced budget every year.
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